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  • Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
    Apparently he must be right there with a couple other players.....not ready to contribute at this point in time.
    You would be right...Donivine is not ready to contribute at this level, at this time. Being a "true point guard" means absolutely nothing when you can't compete defensively or athletically.

    This team has some issues but right now Walt Lemon, Jr. isn't one of them.

    Re: the offense and "set plays"...this team isn't designed for set plays. It doesn't have the type of talent or players to be doing that. The best offense is pushing it in transition, getting layups, drives, and kick outs. The offensive production has been fine. When you play really fast with a lot of possessions there will be some quick shots that people question from time to time. That's just how it works.

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    • Originally posted by Old Coach View Post
      All I expect from this team is top-shelf effort every game. Nothing more. Nothing less.

      For what it's worth, it seems pretty obvious to me that this offense is catering to the talent of the team. It allows Walt, DSE, and TB to take the ball to the rim and score off the dribble. Running good sets for a horrible shooting team with little inside scoring presence would make absolutely no sense at all.
      Ding, ding, ding.

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      • Sorry, but most coaches would disagree. They way most coaches would play with a team that is not a strong outside shooting team is with cutting and passing to get higher percentage shots. Coaches that rely on telling their players to be a ball hog and take the ball 1 on 5 are never very successful.

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        • I don't think Ford is telling them to take it one on five

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          • Originally posted by buschsquirrel2011 View Post
            This team has some issues but right now Walt Lemon, Jr. isn't one of them....
            not sure -- he is scoring well - but do you really want your predominate ball handler and ball distributor consistently leading the team in shots taken or turnovers?
            Of course he needs to be in the game but we will be a lot better once we begin utilizing a true point guard.

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            • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              Coaches that rely on telling their players to be a ball hog and take the ball 1 on 5 are never very successful.
              Are you saying that's what's happening at BU right now? I see players making bad decisions as they try to learn the "flow" of a new system.

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              • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                not sure -- he is scoring well - but do you really want your predominate ball handler and ball distributor consistently leading the team in shots taken or turnovers?
                Of course he needs to be in the game but we will be a lot better once we begin utilizing a true point guard.
                Geno's system usually produces high scoring/high rebounding guards. There's no rule that says a PG shouldn't score well.

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                • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  not sure -- he is scoring well - but do you really want your predominate ball handler and ball distributor consistently leading the team in shots taken or turnovers?
                  Of course he needs to be in the game but we will be a lot better once we begin utilizing a true point guard.
                  Consistently leading the team in shots taken and turnovers? That statement really didn't seem at all accurate to me, so I looked back through our season. This is what happens when you don't ignore FACTS.



                  Out of 10 games so far this year, Walt has led the team in Shot Attempts 1 time (he was tied with Taylor Brown) and you could essentially say he won the game with his 3 pointer. He has led the team in turnovers twice, and one of those times he was tied with 2 other players. To say that Walt has been CONSISTENTLY leading the team in shot attempts and turnovers is a blatant disregard for facts. Furthermore, Walt is shooting 57% from the field this year , and 47% from behind the arc., For comparison's sake, DSE shoots 41%, TB is at 43%, Prosser is at 44%, and only Thompson has a higher percentage than Walt, and he doesn't shoot it further than 5 feet from the basket. Any argument about Walt's shot attempts is hardly even an argument for a player shooting that well! He's not going to be an assist machine, but he's been contributing as much as anyone else on the team. We don't have a traditional offense because we don't have the PIECES for a traditional offense.

                  Sure, Walt isn't a traditional point guard, but for a player who has only played 10 total games at the position I think he's doing an outstanding job. He's been our most valuable player this season in my opinion.

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                  • Originally posted by spoon View Post
                    Walt has been our most valuable player this season in my opinion.
                    Without a doubt. As Walt goes so goes Bradley. Imagine what might happen once Taylor Brown, Dyricus, and Prosser develop more consistency.

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                    • Originally posted by spoon View Post
                      Consistently leading the team in shots taken and turnovers? That statement really didn't seem at all accurate to me, so I looked back through our season. This is what happens when you don't ignore FACTS...

                      Out of 10 games so far this year, Walt has led the team in Shot Attempts 1 time...
                      When you actually look at the stats you see Walt is significantly leading the rest of the team's key players in FG%. He has made 57% of his shots! Only Anthony Thompson with limited attempts and minutes shoots better.

                      There's your answer as to why Walt is one of the scoring leaders.

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                      • nice mis-quote spoon..

                        I said shots or turnovers...so you quote it as shots and turnovers...then proceed to show I am correct that Walt did indeed lead in shots or turnovers in 3 of our last 4 games -

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                        • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          nice mis-quote spoon..

                          I said shots or turnovers...so you quote it as shots and turnovers...then proceed to show I am correct that Walt did indeed lead in shots or turnovers in 3 of our last 4 games -
                          I know the minute you start parsing words and getting defensive that you KNOW you are WRONG... It's your M.O. smh

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                          • Originally posted by lefty View Post
                            I don't think Ford is telling them to take it one on five
                            That's my point. I agree 100% with you. I am sure that's not what Coach Ford wants. I was responding to a poster who said that philosophy was what Coach Ford wanted. Yet we do get a lot of our points from players like TB, DSE, WL, and even JE just going solo. Those kind of points will get a lot harder in the MVC.

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                            • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              Sorry, but most coaches would disagree. They way most coaches would play with a team that is not a strong outside shooting team is with cutting and passing to get higher percentage shots. Coaches that rely on telling their players to be a ball hog and take the ball 1 on 5 are never very successful.
                              So are you saying DC that Geno should slow the offense down and work on more set plays? I have been saying the same thing, but it is becoming more obvious to me that "run and gun" offense that Geno ran at Kent State is the same one he is going to live and die with here at Bradley. Unless of course the way it's playing out now is more just sloppy play by our team still learning how to run the system properly.

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                              • Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
                                So are you saying DC that Geno should slow the offense down and work on more set plays? I have been saying the same thing, but it is becoming more obvious to me that "run and gun" offense that Geno ran at Kent State is the same one he is going to live and die with here at Bradley.
                                We don't have the personnel for that Bravesfan. That would require having bruisers inside that we could pound the ball in to and consistent outside shooters. I think Geno is giving us our best chance at winning by attempting to utilize our quickness and athleticism to generate both offense and defense. It's not the typical college game and can appear ugly at times, but it's been shown to work with the right players in place. I'm sure there will be nights this year where we look great and others where we feel like vomiting.

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