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I apologize - I had UNI's SOS as InSU's...so I revise my comment -- but UNI stll had better finish above .500 in the MVC or they have no hope of an at-large bid
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They probably will need at least 11 conference wins to even be considered. Of course this will become even more difficult for them after we beat them this Sunday!Originally posted by tornado View Post
It's interesting that all the pundits, even those who favor BCS teams over mid-majors, had UNI in the tournament based on their strong non-conference SOS. But this is where that stat can be very misleading. Despite their strong SOS, there really is nothing of substance in their non-conference wins that would stick out. Wins over Iowa St. and Colorado St. were nice, but nothing that separates them from the pack. I'd rather pick a team with a 200 SOS and two top 25 wins over a team with a top 25 SOS and not top 50 wins. All this high SOS shows is that they played very few if any creme puff type of teams, which is good, but not good enough to be chosen for an at-large bid unless they win the Valley.Comment
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I'd put down 12-6 as a stock answer to UNI's hopes. (for a reasonable bubble chance)Originally posted by Bravesfan View PostThey probably will need at least 11 conference wins to even be considered. Of course this will become even more difficult for them after we beat them this Sunday!
It's interesting that all the pundits, even those who favor BCS teams over mid-majors, had UNI in the tournament based on their strong non-conference SOS. But this is where that stat can be very misleading. Despite their strong SOS, there really is nothing of substance in their non-conference wins that would stick out. Wins over Iowa St. and Colorado St. were nice, but nothing that separates them from the pack. I'd rather pick a team with a 200 SOS and two top 25 wins over a team with a top 25 SOS and not top 50 wins. All this high SOS shows is that they played very few if any creme puff type of teams, which is good, but not good enough to be chosen for an at-large bid unless they win the Valley.
And be careful about SoSs. The committee just loves to eat that stuff up. They have a SoS fetish.Comment
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They'd better finish with at least 12 wins in the MVC - not just finish above .500. And even that would put them on a severe bubble.Originally posted by tornado View Post
For UNI, I think 13-5 in the Valley, a B'Busters win, and a championship game appearance in the MVC tourney presents a strong case for an At-Large bid. 25 wins in a conference as good as the Valley this year gets it done.
But that's a very tall order for them starting out 2-2 in the league, and a possible loss coming up.Comment
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TAS, Illinois State's RPI has been right around 100 (tonight it's @102).Originally posted by TheAsianSensation View Post
We just took the Shockers down to the wire in Wichita.
We played the Illini very tough on a neutral court.
We beat Rutgers, who has beaten both Florida and UCONN.
We are the only one's who have beaten Mo State in conference play and we did it in Springfield too.
I am not saying we are world beaters, but I am SMH that you think we are a "bad loss".Comment
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Well I'm saying I project it to be a bad loss by March. To be dead honest I'll be shocked if IlSU is hovering around .500 Valley by then. But then again that would've predicated an easy win tonight, so who knows. Is it too much to ask the rival to be miserable too?Originally posted by cpacmel View PostComment
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Interesting. Especially since your comment right before it was about Ohio, and how at the moment losing to them isn't a bad loss. I would have thought ISU would have fallen in the same section (not a bad loss at the time)Originally posted by TheAsianSensation View Post
Last year wasn't enough?Is it too much to ask the rival to be miserable too?
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I do expect Ohio to be top 2 in the MAC, though. So I probably should've qualified my statement with that.Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
It's never enoughLast year wasn't enough?
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