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Fair enough. None of us are satisfied with mediocrity. However, prior to last year with the injuries, Bradley had 5 winning seasons with upper half mvc finishes.
No championships, but hardly a program in shambles as some have characterized.
I don"t think he got fired because of his record, one of the reasons that was used but had he not gotten into it with a higher up I think he would have gotten another year.
Geno is our coach and he had nothing to do with the past so I believe he deserves all the support we can give him in turning this program around.
Air Petey is saying the top 3 teams in the Valley are not running clean programs which is the first I have heard of that, once again I would like to see all of us concentrate on BU and care less about what is happening with other teams.
I hate this "What have you done fvor me lately" in college sports!! Two years ago last weekend I would have never dreamed Jim Les would have been fired. We beat Illinois and had Duke on the schedule for the next year. That was awesome. We have a couple of bad loses and Jim gets in a fight with an admin person and he is gone. WOW! I'm sick and tired of this 4th and 5th place in the conference. I have NO proof what so ever, but I have heard rumoors of the top 3 teams in this league are cheating. Then in my book, we were finishing FIRST in the clean league. Unless some of you want to cheat for the top 3 spots - Quit using the case we did not finish in the top 3 of the league. We went to sweet 16 and did not finish in the top 3. Grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
Interesting post.... Not sure if I fully agree though. Shortly after the new Prez got here, I had some questions as to what would happen with the athletic department. I personally thought that the drumbeat to get rid of JL was evident in the timeframe you mentioned though. Not certain of the top 3 cheating, but I have heard strong whispers about a program or two.
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
It's month 2 of a coaching change. With really, none of your own players?
What would be a fair expectation?
My fair expectation would be that I would like for the staff to realize some things and ADJUST to what is happening on the floor. We currently have two players who have a positive assist/turnover ratio. One barely positive. That tells me that this current system does not match the makeup of the team and that a player or two is playing way out of position. Why not change things up? We also have a player who is shooting .091 from the three. Yet by the sheer volume of shot attempts, it would indicate that this person has the green light to launch threes????? I am not expecting miracles this year, but I would like to see an experienced staff show me something.
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
My fair expectation would be that I would like for the staff to realize some things and ADJUST to what is happening on the floor. We currently have two players who have a positive assist/turnover ratio. One barely positive. That tells me that this current system does not match the makeup of the team and that a player or two is playing way out of position. Why not change things up? We also have a player who is shooting .091 from the three. Yet by the sheer volume of shot attempts, it would indicate that this person has the green light to launch threes????? I am not expecting miracles this year, but I would like to see an experienced staff show me something.
I think this staff adjusts, especially in-game, way better than we saw in our recent past at BU.
I think Bradley is trying to simplify the offense to give these players a chance at staying in games. I think the staff would like to be running much more than we are. We simply don't have the talent to do so right now.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Geno is our coach and he had nothing to do with the past so I believe he deserves all the support we can give him in turning this program around.
Air Petey is saying the top 3 teams in the Valley are not running clean programs which is the first I have heard of that, once again I would like to see all of us concentrate on BU and care less about what is happening with other teams.
I could not agree more. Bradley is just beginning to build a new direction for this program. We are starting pretty much from scratch.
With time, I think Coach Ford can make this work. Hopefully the fans will give him their support.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
[QUOTE=Bravesfan;243787]Then Les should have been fired after year 7 or 8.
Now your getting the picture. I've gone on record saying it's to bad it came to that but that's what was needed. To early to tell if Geno is the answer but he sure isn't the problem.Its gonna get better.
The fact is this..Geno has some limited players on this roster..there are some guys who dont belong here or any D1 institution. Next year Bell and Pickett will help and Egoff back but still no shooters..now 2013 will be better...Hopefully Taphorn and another shooter coming in...but at the end of the day you got to make shots.
I really get tired of seeing people say that we have players on this team that don't belong on a D1 basketball team. To say any of these players shouldn't be on any of 340+ basketball teams is just absurd!
I saw Taphorn play at Limestone this weekend. Maybe it wasn't a good game, but I was more impressed with his defense and active hands than I was with his offense......and that was against a not so good high school team.
???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
This mess will not be corrected in the next year or two but we need to back these kids,look for improvement and wait until Geno can get his own kids in here.
I can agree with this much.
???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
We were never above 4th or 5th place. You satisified with that?
What place did we finish when we went to the Sweet 16? I was pretty satisfied with that season!
???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
What place did we finish when we went to the Sweet 16? I was pretty satisfied with that season!
Yeah I was pretty satisfied with that finish also but today we would probably not have gotten in the big dance. We finished 4th and had 4 teams in the dance. Been a 1 trick pony last several years. We also had a guy named CB and oh almost forgot , WE HAD TALENT on that team. None like that B4 or after the Sweet 16. If anything we should have capitalized on the run and failed badly in that regard. As the saying goes we didn't, " make hay while the sun was shining."
This is about this year's team. Who cares what happened 5 years ago?
This team and the S16 team are nothing similar.
Again, to be judging the current team and coaching staff on 2 months is absurd. It has nothing in common with judging a program after 9 seasons of another coach.
Let's just watch this group and coaching staff and see how they develop this season. Conference is where we might get some idea, as we play teams twice.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
If I read the word 'fallout' or 'injuries' one more time on this Forum, I'll throw up on my keyboard....
And to think if Mo hadn't been let go unjustly, BU would have won all sorts of MVC titles and post season bids to the NCAA/NIT would have become commonplace for BU.
JL would now be a very wealthy retired stockbroker living in a big mansion in SOCAL, cutting fat checks to BU MBB program, instead of schlepping at UC Davis.
Could the pro people just let it go?
We know your position very well, as you know the change people's position very well.
Yeah, because I keep using Dana Altman as an example. I think it's fair you have to throw out his first three years since it took him four years just to get Creighton to the NIT. Only after did the Big Dance invites start coming regularly.
Comparing those two is ridiculous.After the third year CU finished no worse than 4th in the Valley, most the time finished 1st or 2nd, won the Valley tourney 6 times, and 7 NCAA"s and 5 NIT's....we had a nice run in the SS year and the next year was good too....we just couldn't build on it so the change was made.
When the "BE BRAVE" slogan/logo was introduced this fall, I thought the Athletic Department was off base and said so. I apologize. They knew exactly what they were doing.
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