2 more players next season?

[Future Walk-On]

You can argue he won't be the BEST interior player on the roster....but I think I would take him over DH and NW

need more than 3 Bigs

[buschsquirrel2011]

the coaching staff at Illinois would disagree with you.

A coaching staff that is clearly on the hot seat as well.

Methinks Sammy's 25 points last night played a much bigger role than any "leadership" intangibles he provided. It's amazing how good of "leaders" players become as their scoring or rebounding numbers increase.

[Beninator]

Disagree on the production standpoint and leadership is impossible to quantify--I would never want someone back just because of "leadership" which is one of the most overtalked about things in sports.

Remember...this will be an Egolf who has had 2 knee reconstruction surgeries and has been about a 7 ppg, 5 rpg guy for his career. I would be willing to bet Tyshon Pickett eclipses those #'s next year.

There you go playing "what if" games again! See your post in the Sammy thread.

[Beninator]

A coaching staff that is clearly on the hot seat as well.

Methinks Sammy's 25 points last night played a much bigger role than any "leadership" intangibles he provided. It's amazing how good of "leaders" players become as their scoring or rebounding numbers increase.

wow.... just wow... Anybody and I mean anybody whom has seen Sammy play since his sophomore year here knew that Sammy provided leadership to his team. You either have a personal schadenfreude against SM and or JL, or don't know anything about team sports.

[buschsquirrel2011]

wow.... just wow... Anybody and I mean anybody whom has seen Sammy play since his sophomore year here knew that Sammy provided leadership to his team. You either have a personal schadenfreude against SM and or JL, or don't know anything about team sports.

When did I ever say Sammy didn't provide "leadership"?? Sure he was a "leader" at Bradley--I guess anyway. I think that stuff is overblown and nearly impossible to quantify.

But I am guessing Bruce Weber would prefer 25 points and "leadership" over 3 points and "leadership"....don't you agree? My point was this...his value to Bradley had a heck of a lot more to do with his ability to play well, score points, run the offense etc. than his "leadership".

I'm not saying the "leadership" wasn't there at BU, and that it wasn't there in the game against Maryland. But the "leadership" played second fiddle, big time, to the actually production of the court. That's my point.

Give me a non "leader" who averages 20 ppg versus a "leader" who scores 2 ppg any day.

I don't understand what Jim Les has to do with any of this anyway. Why would you even bring that up?

Lastly, I am quite confident of my grasp of team sports. I don't feel I need to discuss my team sport qualifications with you but thanks for your concern.

[Beninator]

When did I ever say Sammy didn't provide "leadership"?? Sure he was a "leader" at Bradley--I guess anyway. I think that stuff is overblown and nearly impossible to quantify.

But I am guessing Bruce Weber would prefer 25 points and "leadership" over 3 points and "leadership"....don't you agree? My point was this...his value to Bradley had a heck of a lot more to do with his ability to play well, score points, run the offense etc. than his "leadership".

I'm not saying the "leadership" wasn't there at BU, and that it wasn't there in the game against Maryland. But the "leadership" played second fiddle, big time, to the actually production of the court. That's my point.

Give me a non "leader" who averages 20 ppg versus a "leader" who scores 2 ppg any day.

I don't understand what Jim Les has to do with any of this anyway. Why would you even bring that up?

Lastly, I am quite confident of my grasp of team sports. I don't feel I need to discuss my team sport qualifications with you but thanks for your concern.

Well...again... From this post, I question your grasp of TEAM sports! Is Sammy a person who will average 20 ppg? Certainly not. Sammy is a person who will make the teammate who does average 20 ppg and who is not a leader a BETTER player. At least for us, Sammy was a player who you wanted to have the ball during crunch time in game situations. (the Illinois and USC victories are great examples) I am not an Illini fan, but after watching last year's team, I think that Bruce Webber was looking for a player like Sammy to stabilize his team.

[Future Walk-On]

Will would not be a center or backup one in this system, he is more suited to play forward and is a good shooter from 15 feet, was hoping he would be able to make it back by mid-Jan. as he could help us a lot as far as experience, size and shooting, he will be a better player in this system because I believe he will not be playing out of position.

Well yeah. I was saying simply a big not center, we all suffered through watching will play the five. However next year wouldnt he have to play some five to back up Prosser when he is out that is unless NW is ready to go

[real fan]

Well yeah. I was saying simply a big not center, we all suffered through watching will play the five. However next year wouldnt he have to play some five to back up Prosser when he is out that is unless NW is ready to go

I expect Nate to be backup unless we come across a jr.college player that decides to come to BU. I also think Will can contribute a lot if he gets a chance to play the correct position .