2 more players next season?

[it's boogie time]

There's some good players on this team, but the overall roster is below average. The one thing going for this program right now is hope. Recruits fuel the hope. Unfortuantely, there are plenty of guys not playing right now that will probably be recruited over. I know I would be a happy fan if two perimeter shooters arrived with the two already signed recruits.

[buschsquirrel2011]

you can't figure out that is rude yourself?

I don't think its rude...that's why I said what I did. . In fact, I would say it is complimentary towards the program.

I want the program to get better. I understand this will be a LONG process. Having Will Egolf play next year does not speed up the process.

If fans feel it is morally right, etc. to let all BU players finish out their four, five or six years at Bradley that is fine. Then they should never complain about how long it might take for the program to get better.

Bradley has more than filled its obligation to Will Egolf. I don't think asking him to not play next year after giving him 5 years of scholarship is rude or out of the line. Is it about the player or about the program?

[mrcoachdude]

I don't think its rude...that's why I said what I did. . In fact, I would say it is complimentary towards the program.

I want the program to get better. I understand this will be a LONG process. Having Will Egolf play next year does not speed up the process.

If fans feel it is morally right, etc. to let all BU players finish out their four, five or six years at Bradley that is fine. Then they should never complain about how long it might take for the program to get better.

Bradley has more than filled its obligation to Will Egolf. I don't think asking him to not play next year after giving him 5 years of scholarship is rude or out of the line. Is it about the player or about the program?

Whew...for a second I thought you had the inability to see what was rude, or not...

Like I said I respect Will and his decision to play next season...it makes sense...outside of his playing ability, I think he also will be bring to next years team, a new found understanding of the game...if he can help translate that to other players, that would be good...

[buschsquirrel2011]

Whew...for a second I thought you had the inability to see what was rude, or not...

Like I said I respect Will and his decision to play next season...it makes sense...outside of his playing ability, I think he also will be bring to next years team, a new found understanding of the game...if he can help translate that to other players, that would be good...

I understand that. Im not trying to bash Will.

I guess if you gave me the option of having Will next year or the first year of a JUCO guy like Tyshon Pickett, Theron Wilson or Lawrence Wright type the answer is easy. Give me the JUCO guy.

[real fan]

There's some good players on this team, but the overall roster is below average. The one thing going for this program right now is hope. Recruits fuel the hope. Unfortuantely, there are plenty of guys not playing right now that will probably be recruited over. I know I would be a happy fan if two perimeter shooters arrived with the two already signed recruits.

I am happy to see that someone else says that certain players need to be recruited over, without doing this Bradley will have a tough time putting together a winner as we have players on this team that are not d-1 players.

[LittleBrave]

Not seeing the "hope" anywhere FWO.

Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, I see it earlier in the thread.
For the 1st time, I'm not on the same page as you B4L. What's up with that?

[LittleBrave]

Bradley has more than filled its obligation to Will Egolf. I don't think asking him to not play next year after giving him 5 years of scholarship is rude or out of the line. Is it about the player or about the program?

Players make up the program, so my answer would be both.
You can't just let a guy go who has been loyal to the team that has invested so much and has contibuted regularly. I want him to stay for those reasons, even if he doesn't meet everyone's standards. I'm sure Geno will not play him according to how he produces on the court. JP, TP, and NW will earn more P.T. if he doesn't, but he is quite capable.

[Braves4Life]

B4L I would love to see that happen. I keep seeing that the Will situation is possible.

hope or love to see it = pretty much the same thing...

Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, I see it earlier in the thread.
For the 1st time, I'm not on the same page as you B4L. What's up with that?

If you're referring to wily's post above I don't see that as hope that Egolf comes back so we can clear his scholarship for next season. I see the statement as him hoping Egolf comes back by the end of the season so (as I said previously) he could "finish out his career in style". I chose to see his remark in a positive light..... Maybe that was wrong.

[Gwright]

If fans feel it is morally right, etc. to let all BU players finish out their four, five or six years at Bradley that is fine. Then they should never complain about how long it might take for the program to get better.

Bradley has more than filled its obligation to Will Egolf. I don't think asking him to not play next year after giving him 5 years of scholarship is rude or out of the line. Is it about the player or about the program?

I think you nailed it right here, Bradley is a D-1 Basketball program, and these players are heavily compensated for their services, AND provided with the tools to make the academic side of college very easy. Scholarships AS RULED BY THE NCAA are NOW [they were NOT before] allowed to be offered for more than one year, unless we broke the rules everyone on the team, should be operating on a year by year scholarship basis. I have no problem with cutting a player who is not performing (I am not talking about WE specifically here). If GF has any question about a young man's skill or heart, he MUST feel free to let that player go. Yes, our graduation rates might take a hit, but I would rather take the hit there than lose a roster spot to a player who doesn't want to be here.

People have different opinions on what we owe players. I think that I personally automatically owe them 110% support on and off the court, so long at the university and the coach supports them. If the coach or university decides that someone needs to leave, then I might support that player on an individual basis depending on the situation. Most of the time, I follow the advice in my signature, but, I (and most of you) earned my way into the Bradley family, and I think that most of us will choose to support players leaving for one reason or another, but I am not sure that we are bound to support them.

[Future Walk-On]

So you guys really think WE will provide no help to our interior next year?

You want that to be all on JP, TP (an unproven JUCO), Devon, and Nate?

I just feel more comfortable bringing WE back for numerous reasons. WE would have started this year and next IMO.

Unless you know of a better player that is available next year..orrr you want to bring in a freshman you think would be better in the end.

[BeBrave]

So you guys really think WE will provide no help to our interior next year?

You want that to be all on JP, TP (an unproven JUCO), Devon, and Nate?

I just feel more comfortable bringing WE back for numerous reasons. WE would have started this year and next IMO.

Unless you know of a better player that is available next year..orrr you want to bring in a freshman you think would be better in the end.

Right, WE will offer more for next season than any freshman or JUCO we could go and get at this point; especially in terms of leadership.

[buschsquirrel2011]

Right, WE will offer more for next season than any freshman or JUCO we could go and get at this point; especially in terms of leadership.

Disagree on the production standpoint and leadership is impossible to quantify--I would never want someone back just because of "leadership" which is one of the most overtalked about things in sports.

Remember...this will be an Egolf who has had 2 knee reconstruction surgeries and has been about a 7 ppg, 5 rpg guy for his career. I would be willing to bet Tyshon Pickett eclipses those #'s next year.

[real fan]

So you guys really think WE will provide no help to our interior next year?

You want that to be all on JP, TP (an unproven JUCO), Devon, and Nate?

I just feel more comfortable bringing WE back for numerous reasons. WE would have started this year and next IMO.

Unless you know of a better player that is available next year..orrr you want to bring in a freshman you think would be better in the end.

Will would not be a center or backup one in this system, he is more suited to play forward and is a good shooter from 15 feet, was hoping he would be able to make it back by mid-Jan. as he could help us a lot as far as experience, size and shooting, he will be a better player in this system because I believe he will not be playing out of position.

[Braves4Life]

Egolf ...has been about a 7 ppg, 5 rpg guy for his career. I would be willing to bet Tyshon Pickett eclipses those #'s next year.

For BU's sake I sure hope so.

[lefty]

--I would never want someone back just because of "leadership" which is one of the most overtalked about things in sports..

the coaching staff at Illinois would disagree with you.