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  • #91
    Originally posted by amettrick View Post
    Is this guy serious? He serious isn't he?

    It's one loss, the opponent shot absolutely lights out all night, and our guys had an off night. Simple as that. It's hardly worth placing the fate of the entire program on just one game. Lighten up.

    Plus, it's Geno's FOURTH game as coach. Unless he's somehow related to Jesus or Tim Tebow, chances are he isn't going to be a miracle worker and take this team from a last place team to a first place team overnight. These things do take time you know.
    Thank you amettrick! Glad there is another person that agrees with me here! We're still in the minority here, but at least there are a dozen or so posters on our side.

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    • #92
      No, this opinion is not in the minority. Realize that most positive supporters don't post and tend to stay away from argumentative threads.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by da coach View Post
        no, this opinion is not in the minority. Realize that most positive supporters don't post and tend to stay away from argumentative threads.


        bingo!!!

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          No, this opinion is not in the minority. Realize that most positive supporters don't post and tend to stay away from argumentative threads.
          I agree that this opinion is not in the minority. Don't know of anybody who thought otherwise. However, after victories there are one thread after another with positive thoughts and opinion. You have to expect the same after a disappointing loss. Have to disagree that supporters, as I consider myself, tend to stay away from argumentative threads. Many of the same posters post in practically every thread. Nothing wrong with that. That's what this forum is all about.
          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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          • #95
            As I keep looking at the thread title....I just don't think it's possible to have a great effort and unacceptable loss....

            If a team gives a great effort than I don't believe the loss is unacceptable...doesn't mean I like it any better but it wasn't because of lack of effort....I'm not specifically talking about the Wofford game but any team in any game...

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            • #96
              Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
              yeh they shot well on the road..it happens....but its just an ongoing feud about whether a player shoots better at a familiar basket or not...stats say its a factor...obviously there are bumps in the road and peaks and valleys...but overall being familiar with the surroundings helps the %
              The skill of the shooter and the quality of the opponent matter far more than anything else.

              Shooting against Wisconsin and its players/defense and then Bradley and its players/defense is quite different. At one point vs. Wisconsin Wofford was 4-27 from the floor. I don't think it had anything to do with the shooting background at the Kohl Center and everything to do with the players on the floor for the Badgers.

              #10 is a very, very good shooter. Just watch the kid shoot it. Same for #2. They got shots they could make against BU and hardly a sniff against the Badgers.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                Before the bad vibes on BU's 1st loss under GF, the previous coach didn't break 0.500 overall or in the MVC until his 4th season on the job.

                JL inherited Gillingham, Gilbert, Robinson, Suggs, Faulknor, and Stewart and didn't break 0.500 in his first year.

                Talk about FALLOUT, BU lost Granger, Tisby and Tucker in 2002-3 after Mo was let go!

                Change is difficult!

                Re grading GF's FY incoming players after 4 games, here were the previous coach's first couple recruiting classes:

                2002-3 ...... Danny Adams (recruited walk on), Steve Marcetic, Chris Mroz, Jabbar Battle, Joey Paul and Ryan Sunley
                Avg 0.9 ppg total in 2002-3

                2003-4 ..... Kevin Jones, Michael Rembert, JJ Tuai
                Avg 7.4 ppg total in 2003-4

                2004-5 ..... Jeremy Crouch, Danny Ruffin, Patrick O'Bryant, Sam Singh, Lance Stemler and Montana Heirman
                Avg 27.7 ppg total in 2004-5 (Best incoming class for JL?)

                Wasn't till the 3rd year before enough quality recruits turned up on BU's roster after the last change.

                Patience folks. Give it some time....Support your current BU players and Coach through the transition!
                Oh you and your reason, logic and facts....get out of here

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                • #98
                  ?? we seem to be preaching to the choir or at least beating a dead horse...
                  the only thing this seems to prove is what most of us are saying....
                  how tough it can be to try to win in the first season with someone else's players - when a new coach is trying to rebuild...no matter how good they are and no matter whether they stay or leave...

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    ?? we seem to be preaching to the choir or at least beating a dead horse...
                    the only thing this seems to prove is what most of us are saying....
                    how tough it can be to try to win in the first season with someone else's players - when a new coach is trying to rebuild...no matter how good they are and no matter whether they stay or leave...
                    Of course. That's why I think most fans understand patience is the key here. Some, for some reason, don't get it.

                    If BU is still finishing near the bottom of the league and the talent level hasn't increased in 3-4 years then, ok, fine, complain. But good grief get some perspective.

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                    • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      ?? we seem to be preaching to the choir or at least beating a dead horse...
                      the only thing this seems to prove is what most of us are saying....
                      how tough it can be to try to win in the first season with someone else's players - when a new coach is trying to rebuild...no matter how good they are and no matter whether they stay or leave...
                      T, some people disagree with you just for sport. It has nothing to do with whether or not what you are saying is true. Don't sweat it.

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                      • Originally posted by buschsquirrel2011 View Post
                        The skill of the shooter and the quality of the opponent matter far more than anything else.

                        Shooting against Wisconsin and its players/defense and then Bradley and its players/defense is quite different. At one point vs. Wisconsin Wofford was 4-27 from the floor. I don't think it had anything to do with the shooting background at the Kohl Center and everything to do with the players on the floor for the Badgers.

                        #10 is a very, very good shooter. Just watch the kid shoot it. Same for #2. They got shots they could make against BU and hardly a sniff against the Badgers.
                        agree with you...probably the biggest factor in shooting % is.....defensive pressure...you know #10 hit some crazy shots under a ton of pressure...
                        Peoria Toyota Scion

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                        • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                          No, this opinion is not in the minority. Realize that most positive supporters don't post and tend to stay away from argumentative threads.
                          That's true. Just like 95% of sports talk radio listeners do not ever call in. It's usually only the 5% that are the most argumentative that do. Great point DC.

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                          • Originally posted by Chico View Post
                            I agree that this opinion is not in the minority. Don't know of anybody who thought otherwise. However, after victories there are one thread after another with positive thoughts and opinion. You have to expect the same after a disappointing loss. Have to disagree that supporters, as I consider myself, tend to stay away from argumentative threads. Many of the same posters post in practically every thread. Nothing wrong with that. That's what this forum is all about.
                            I don't have a problem with negative threads after a loss. I do have a problem though with people who turn on the coach after one bad loss and four games into his career here. Much too early to be grading Geno. Two or three years down the line, have at it.

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                            • Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
                              I don't have a problem with negative threads after a loss. I do have a problem though with people who turn on the coach after one bad loss and four games into his career here. Much too early to be grading Geno. Two or three years down the line, have at it.
                              Can't mean me. All I've said on this thread is that it was a disappointing loss. If that's turning on the coach then I guess everyone is turning on him because I would hope we were all disappointed. I'm behind Geno 100% as I am with every BU coach.
                              What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                              • Originally posted by Chico View Post
                                Can't mean me. All I've said on this thread is that it was a disappointing loss. If that's turning on the coach then I guess everyone is turning on him because I would hope we were all disappointed. I'm behind Geno 100% as I am with every BU coach.
                                I think we were all disappointed by that loss Chico. Wofford is a team that we should have beaten, especially at home. Let's hope our young team learned a lesson that carries forward to future home games, particularly in-conference. Gotta hold that home court!

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