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  • #16
    If anyone saw the Gonzaga/Washington State game last night - it was soooo obvious what would help us the most...

    BOTH teams repeatedly made BIG runs and looked hard to stop because they had great outside shooters and they nailed virtually every free throw when they needed to...

    BOTH teams shot about 50% from 3-pt and their key guys just didn't miss from the FT line

    One Gonzaga kid, Kevin Pangos - was 9-13 from 3-pt and 6-6 from the line -- this is what we need.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      If anyone saw the Gonzaga/Washington State game last night - it was soooo obvious what would help us the most...

      BOTH teams repeatedly made BIG runs and looked hard to stop because they had great outside shooters and they nailed virtually every free throw when they needed to...

      BOTH teams shot about 50% from 3-pt and their key guys just didn't miss from the FT line

      One Gonzaga kid, Kevin Pangos - was 9-13 from 3-pt and 6-6 from the line -- this is what we need.
      +1 Post of the week ,maybe year.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
        as a former coach...I am thinking it leans more toward reality...

        but your point on just pure talent is also a reality...court awareness is the key to that...and like I said before, its a lot of muscle memory on free throws...
        Coachdude...as a former coach, what makes you lean towards reality?

        Again, there is no statistical evidence that showed Bradley suffered from a shooting standpoint not practicing in Carver Arena. There is no statistical evidence that shooting percentages vary based on where games are played (not when there is a big enough sample).

        Coaches THINK alot of things...however, they aren't based on any actual data.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          If anyone saw the Gonzaga/Washington State game last night - it was soooo obvious what would help us the most...

          BOTH teams repeatedly made BIG runs and looked hard to stop because they had great outside shooters and they nailed virtually every free throw when they needed to...

          BOTH teams shot about 50% from 3-pt and their key guys just didn't miss from the FT line

          One Gonzaga kid, Kevin Pangos - was 9-13 from 3-pt and 6-6 from the line -- this is what we need.
          Good point. What makes those really athletic, fast paced teams good? Having one or two really great outside shooters. That way you have to respect that and can't sag off the athletic driving guys.

          It happened in the Detroit-ND game. Detroit had the far superior athletes but couldn't take advantage of it because they couldn't make an outside shot.

          That is why it would be great if Jake can become a consistent three-point threat.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by buschsquirrel2011 View Post

            Coaches THINK alot of things...however, they aren't based on any actual data.
            So do all fans.
            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
              So do all fans.
              That is true as well JD. But on this specific topic this fan is right

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              • #22
                Originally posted by buschsquirrel2011 View Post
                Coachdude...as a former coach, what makes you lean towards reality?

                Again, there is no statistical evidence that showed Bradley suffered from a shooting standpoint not practicing in Carver Arena. There is no statistical evidence that shooting percentages vary based on where games are played (not when there is a big enough sample).

                Coaches THINK alot of things...however, they aren't based on any actual data.
                Busch...I think part of the homecourt advantage is the crowd...but when you play on a familiar court I believe it makes a difference...I am not talking night and day difference here...I am not a statistics guy...but I guess one could look those things up and prove or disprove what I am saying...no big deal either way...

                I always shot better on my home court...used to hang out at Franklin Grade school and play hoops back in the day...loved those hoops during the summer...
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                • #23
                  I know this isnt directly related to BU, but in the tip off marathon on ESPN right now West Virginia is only 8-15 from the line in the first half. Thats barely 50%. I have kind of noticed a slight dip in free throws at all levels of college basketball over the past few years. Dont know what factors into it and its just an observation on my part so I dont know if it has any merit

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                  • #24
                    Guys, I'm not arguing that many factors don't play into FT's. I am always amazed how every kid can't hit at least 70%.

                    I'm also not trying to make any excuses. All I am saying is this. On Sunday, both teams had guys miss more on one end of the floor. Just seemed odd to me.

                    Same players, in the same game. On one end they fell, on the other then rattled and popped out. No more, no less. I just found it interesting.
                    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by buschsquirrel2011 View Post
                      Good point. What makes those really athletic, fast paced teams good? Having one or two really great outside shooters. ....

                      ...yeah -- too bad we can't steal one of the Illini's solid, experienced PG's who thus far is one of their leading scorers,
                      and who is hitting 50% from the field, 43% from 3-pt, and one of their leaders in assists AND A/T Ratio!
                      Not to mention since this a FREE THROW THREAD....a 90% FT shooter....


                      Sammy to Nnanna to beat the buzzer

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        ...yeah -- too bad we can't steal one of the Illini's solid, experienced PG's who thus far is one of their leading scorers,
                        and who is hitting 50% from the field, 43% from 3-pt, and one of their leaders in assists AND A/T Ratio!
                        Not to mention since this a FREE THROW THREAD....a 90% FT shooter....


                        Sammy to Nnanna to beat the buzzer
                        'T' you went from the post of the year to this -1 post. You spell out what we need and I agreed then your post and last time I checked He didn't want to be here. He wouldn't even give Geno a chance. sorry this one rates a -1 . We will make do with the people who want to be here. I thought you wanted to put all this to rest yet YOU keep bringing it up. I don't get it.

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                        • #27
                          but he is what we need

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            but he is what we need
                            I disagree. I don't think a team NEEDS someone who doesn't want to be here.

                            Give me 10-15 guys that WANT to be a Brave.

                            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                            • #29
                              I think you are wrong here - inside info argues otherwise
                              but it is irrelevant -- I am talking about what we need not by name but by the type of player --

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                I think you are wrong here - inside info argues otherwise
                                but it is irrelevant -- I am talking about what we need not by name but by the type of player --
                                Ahh, the inside info angle

                                Sam Maniscalso chose not to finish his career at Bradley. That was his decision. If Coach Ford were to chose guys NOT to be here I am sure Sam wouldn't have been his first choice to go

                                This is a process that will take some time. Sam maybe helps this particular team win a few more games this year but as a 5th year senior he would be taking developmental minutes from guys like Walt, Donivine and Jalen. I prefer them to be playing the minutes Sammy would have played. I'm not worried about going from 10-13 wins this season, I am worried about the long term development of the program.

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