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Originally posted by tornado
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So you would abandon all you have worked on for the last 3 weeks and tell the guys to just run the clock and give them the ball back so we don't beat them by whatever? Get used to it this season. The Sycamores will be launching lots of 3's from lots of players. It will be a strong part of the offense. Lot of not only shooters, but "makers" on this team. -
bs - then give Kirk Wessler a call and argue a bit with him -
a couple years back Bradley was blowing out Wichita -- it was a conference game and if there was ever a reason to pour it on this game would have been a reason..
and YET - most reasonable people - Kirk Wessler included, claimed the extra shots at the end of a game that was ALREADY WON were BAD SPORTSMANSHIP..and Gregg Marshall was furious over it....and many people criticized Coach Les -- (I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of them!)
AND -- Wessler even went one step FURTHER -- he said BLAME the coach for this lack of sportsmanship not the players..just another example of blaming JL when he does it then lauding Lansing when he does the same thing??
Pretty much pure hypocrisy if you ask me.
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Easy to look good against the team picked last in their conference....Originally posted by SycamoreFanatic View Post
I am a Truman alum and the basketball program is not very good. We actually have a new coach who is trying to turn a VERY dormant program around. At the worst this team is prepared for the season in the MIAA which is one of if not the toughest all around athletic leagues in D II.
Although I agree with Tornado(wow, those words tasted funny coming out
) when STARTERS are still in the game with under 5 minutes to go and still chucking up 3s not going deep into the shot clock at all, and making no attempt to, is bush. Yes Truman signed up for this game, but when you are overpowering your opponent by THAT much, call off the dogs. You say its an exhibition, then give your guys at the end of your bench some time to run the offense and the coach can see what he has at the end of the bench. Your starters have obviously shown you enough by gaining a 40+ point lead. There is NO NEED to be chucking 3s when you are up by that many points. I dont care what level of basketball we are talking about, its a thing called class.
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I think you are dead right jrish
anyway - more exhibition news....
right now Missouri State is having no trouble with Missouri Southern...
they lead late in the first half 27-7
SIU is playing someone called Missouri S&Y (Missouri University of Science & Technology - formerly Missouri-Rolla) and near the end of the first half SIU holds a comfortable lead 37-23..
Bocot & Dantiels both have 14, the bench has played only a handful of minutes and have just 2 pts...and SIU is shooting 23% on 3-pointers and M-S&T have 13 turnovers already.
Indiana - late in the 2nd half lead Univ. of Indianapolis 76-60 -- Matt Roth has still only played 5 minutes even tho he's already hit 2-2 on 3-pointers -- I think by now he should be getting the message
Walk on guard Daniel Moore consistently plays more minutesComment
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Why would I call Kirk Wessler? He didn't post on this topic.Originally posted by tornado View Post
I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that I never would have criticized Jim Les (or any Bradley coach for that matter) for scoring too many points or for beating an MVC team by too many points. Never happened. Never will.
Why would I criticize Jim Les for beating Wichita State by too many points? I don't like to talk about because it's the past but any problems I had with Jim Les as a basketball coach was not winning enough---not for winning by too many points. But it's not about Jim Les or Kirk Wessler.
If you really knew me you would I've never been one to ever complain about running up the score at this level. Players want to compete and no player worth his salt wants the opponent to take it easy on them.Comment
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Butler bounces back and whallops Franklin 91-53,
Boston College barely squeaks by American International 70-66
DePaul playing Lewis and it's tied 27-27 near the end of 1st halfComment
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most coaches would not encourage their kids to launch more wild three's at the end of a major blowout...least of all a nearly 60-pt exhibition blowout...
that's what the whole other discussion was about that I linked to.....Comment
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Missouri State up by 40+ - MSU not launching 3's and playing deep subs
SIU up by 38 in final 5 min...Missouri S&T is shooting 3's but SIU is NOT, and hasn't shot a 3 since about the 9 min mark and are playing their subs
IU beats Indianapolis 90-72 and even coasting in the 2nd half Matt Roth gets only a few minutes of play after intermission..
totalling only 8 minutes in the game and 2 shots - Roth & Pritchard - both Kelvin Sampson recruits - played fewer minutes than any other
scholarship player and even less than some walk-ons....Comment
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Right but you were claiming that some people chided Jim Les for having his team do that but we're then praising Greg Lansing for having his players do it. No one did either of those things.Originally posted by tornado View Post
Do you know that they were "wild " three pointers?
Anyway....you thought it was poor practice. I didn't. No biggie.Comment
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There's a reason Marshall was sure upset when BU did it to him and why JL was apologetic and on the defensive and why KW was critical....and the maddest I ever saw any college coach get was when the same thing happened to Royce Waltman...
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SIU faculty is on strike -- it'll be interesting to see if this affects their extracurricular activites...Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
Obviously Chris Lowery is working during the strike...
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The Bradley-Wichita game in question wasn't exactly an issue of running up the score per se. It was of Chris Roberts shooting a long three pointer at the buzzer.Originally posted by tornado View Post
To me "running up the score" means the coach has the direct intent of rubbing it in or trying to prove a point. That was not what happened in that game. Did Chris Roberts take an ill advised and unnessecary shot? Sure. But thats just a kid doing something without thinking. Jim Les want trying to run up the score there nor did he instruct his players to do so.
I also don't think Greg Lansing was trying to "stick it to " Truman State or trying to prove a point. I doubt he was intentionally trying to do something like that.
But as I've said before. You will never hear me complain about coaches running up the score at this level. One---if they do it they know what goes around, comes around and they will eventually get it back. And two---no player worth his salt wants the opponent to go easy on them, hold the ball, or back off. They want the opponent to keep playing as hard as they can.Comment
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disagree -- it was exactly an example of running up the score -- later CRob admitted he knew BU's score was a point short of the bonus offer on the back of the fans' tickets for free food...
so he conceded he was trying to help the crowd -- that's an even weaker argument than bettering the score for stats' sakeComment
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Looks like Quincy has no legs playing their 3rd game in less than 3 days.
ISU is up 52-34 @ half
Oklahoma State is losing to Oklahoma Baptist 16-14 with 7 minutes left in 1st half
UConn beat CW Post 91-61 - Andre Drummond 16 & 10
A lower division NAIA (NAIA D-II) St. Ambrose was within 3 points against Saint Louis in the final couple minutes of the game
but had to foul and ended up losing by 11...but they put quite a scare into Majerus & teamComment
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