BU Beats UW-Parkside 87-77

[shaunguth]

Now you're just having too much fun Beninator. I can't wait until you begin singing the praises so we can resurrect your old posts.

Beninator........ Good guy....... Just a little late to the party.

You always have a backhanded compliment don't you!

Don't worry Ben.....I'm a good guy too, just find myself on the wrong side of an opinion.....just ask B4L.

[Braves4Life]

Don't worry Ben.....I'm a good guy too, just find myself on the wrong side of an opinion.....just ask B4L.

You said it, not me.

And shaunguth's a good guy too. There, I said it. (But I did say it "over there" as well).

[shaunguth]

You said it, not me.

And shaunguth's a good guy too. There, I said it. (But I did say it "over there" as well).

I believe you said it first. I would never say such a thing!

[mrcoachdude]

I didnt want to say "I told ya so" but...i'm going to ...

"I TOLD YA SO "

I have said before, that I have watched DS play from the time he was in grade school at Peoria Pleasant Valley. He has a sense for the court that is a God given talent and cannot be coached. His basketball IQ is very high. I think his game comes from that, not his physical ability, I was not surprised to see him do what he has been doing the last 10 years. Every year I have heard, "yeah he's good but not at the next level" and each time he has proven himself.

Let me precict now, that he will be one of the all time career assist leaders at Bradley before he leaves.

any ges who my favorite Brave is ?

Big DS fan here too...Sam's thinking alike?

[Buesch N Chips]

Regardless of how this thread has plays out, it is obvious that this will be the place to be this season to discuss BU hoops. Should be fun!

[Bravesfan]

Well just call me a negative Nellie, but what I saw tonight was nothing short of a cr@pfest! Going into this, I wasn't expecting miracles, but I was certainly expecting more than was shown tonight! I wanted to see this team at least display a purpose on the floor and show signs that they knew where they belonged on the floor! This team had no clue on the offensive and defensive side of the ball for very long stretches of the game. Defense was terrible.... Rebounding slightly better.

Someone...anyone explain to me why Walt should be our PG! I would love to hear the reasoning!!!

Walt should be our 2 guard, with DSE at the point for now. If we make that adjustment, Walt will have a big year for us!

If there was any doubt about whether or not to redshirt Nate Wells, the answer from tonight is a resounding YES to a redshirt. Nate and the program will be better off for redshirting.

Can someone explain to me why we put DSE back into the game after the injury scare late in the second half? If this were a regular season game, I could understand this. Even if DSE was cramping up, why risk injuring DSE by him making an awkward move in an EXHIBITION GAME! SMH!!!!!!

Nice game from TB and DS. I am not ready to anoint DS as the starting PG, but it was nice to see Stewart distribute the ball tonight and I like his outside shot.

Jake was his usual scrappy self. I would love to see him make some threes!

Geno, I have been incredibly neutral about your hiring. From what I have seen from your first game as a Bradley coach, I want a refund on my ticket!

You have gotta be kidding me! You're basing your critism of Geno on one EXHIBITION game? Please!

I thought most of the bashing last year was directed at Les exclusively. But apparently some posters here will bash ANY coach just because things might not be going smoothly.

Give it a rest already!

[Beninator]

You always have a backhanded compliment don't you!

Don't worry Ben.....I'm a good guy too, just find myself on the wrong side of an opinion.....just ask B4L.

Now you're just having too much fun Beninator. I can't wait until you begin singing the praises so we can resurrect your old posts.

Beninator........ Good guy....... Just a little late to the party.

Group hug. Lol. Always ready for a party even if I am late to get there.

[Samd2]

thank you mr coach

thank you mr coach, have you been watching him through the years or just the last couple?

great young man with a great attitude !

[amckillip]

You have gotta be kidding me! You're basing your critism of Geno on one EXHIBITION game? Please!

I thought most of the bashing last year was directed at Les exclusively. But apparently some posters here will bash ANY coach just because things might not be going smoothly.

Give it a rest already!

You're barking up the wrong tree if you're trying to group Ben in with the 'traditional' bashers... Most of those people are now jumping to the defense of Geno (even though most aren't even criticizing him).

[AZ BU Fan]

Looks like the honeymoon is over for Geno (for some) after 2-3 weeks.

I guess Butler's pre season loss makes Brad Stevens the worst coach in America and fans should quickly walk away from him/the Butler program.

Could some fan impatience with GF be part of the, gasp, fallout?

[tornado]

I have observed sports and fans for numerous decades and have formed opinions on the subject - but no sooner will I express my opinions than someone will presume I am talking about them and they will lash out -- just watch & see...
even though I absolutely aim these neutral comments at NOBODY -- some will still see a shoe that fits and go ballistic - guaranteed.....

I think there are basically two types of fans....

Type 1 are fans who treat the team like they treat someone else's kids... as long as they are behaving as expected then good, but if not then there's little patience with them and they reserve the right to be be quite negative.

Type 2 are fans who treat the team like THEIR OWN KIDS...and they are 100% supportive even in difficult times, although it doesn't rule out that they might offer some reasonable criticism when appropriate but never attacks.

I think fan "impatience" is something that's independent of the performance of the team...it's tied to the type of fan you are....
Are you a fan for what YOU can give to the team? (Your support, MONEY, attendance??)
Or are you a fan for what the team can give to you? (wins, entertainment, pride, bragging rights?)

Some fans just want wins - wins are ALMOST all that will satisfy them -- but as we saw with Molinari - even wins aren't always enough if you employ a boring style of play --
so I think in the end - the "impatience" we are talking about is tied to the fan's assessment of the "entertainment value" of the team...

In other words if the fan feels "stroked" enough, he remains quiet or possibly is happy...
if he does not feel entertained sufficiently to his demands, then he begins to gripe...and can get quite negative - kinda like someone who feels cheated or isn't getting their money's worth.

Meanwhile other fans support their team and withhold nasty comments through thick and thin.

[Toyota12]

fan

I have observed sports and fans for numerous decades and have formed opinions on the subject - but no sooner will I express my opinions than someone will presume I am talking about them and they will lash out -- just watch & see...
even though I absolutely aim these neutral comments at NOBODY -- some will still see a shoe that fits and go ballistic - guaranteed.....

I think there are basically two types of fans....

Type 1 are fans who treat the team like they treat someone else's kids... as long as thehy are behaving as expected then good, but if not then there's little patience with them and they reserve the right to be be quite negative.

Type 2 are fans who treat the team like THEIR OWN KIDS...and they are 100% supportive even in difficult times, although it doesn't rule out that they might offer some reasonable criticism when appropriate but never attacks.

I think fan "impatience" is something that's independent of the performance of the team...it's tied to the type of fan you are....
Are you a fan for what YOU can give to the team? (Your support, MONEY, attendance??)
Or are you a fan for what the team can give to you? (wins, entertainment, pride, bragging rights?)

Some fans just want wins - wins are ALMOST all that will satisfy them -- but as we saw with Molinari - even wins aren't always enough if you employ a boring style of play --
so I think in the end - the "impatience" we are talking about is tied to the fan's assessment of the "entertainment value" of the team...

In other words if the fan feels "stroked" enough, he remains quiet or possiblhy is happy...
if he does not feel entertained sufficiently to his demands, then he begins to gripe...and can get quite negative - kinda like someone who feels cheated or isn't getting their money's worth.

Meanwhile other fans support their team and withhold nasty comments through thick and thin.

Well said I agree 100%

[buschsquirrel2011]

In other words if the fan feels "stroked" enough, he remains quiet or possibly is happy...
if he does not feel entertained sufficiently to his demands, then he begins to gripe...and can get quite negative - kinda like someone who feels cheated or isn't getting their money's worth.

Meanwhile other fans support their team and withhold nasty comments through thick and thin.

Decent post tornado.

However, based on your last paragraph aren't there three types of fans:
1) the one who needs "stroked"
2) the one who wants entertained
3) the one who will be blindly loyal all the time

Can a fan be a little of all of them? To me, the fans who feel the need to give money and be close to the program can fall into category 1 (needing stroked) and also 3. A fan can also give money to a program but really, mostly for the entertainment value of it.

I think a program needs all three kinds of fans to thrive.

[amckillip]

Looks like the honeymoon is over for Geno (for some) after 2-3 weeks.

I guess Butler's pre season loss makes Brad Stevens the worst coach in America and fans should quickly walk away from him/the Butler program.

Could some fan impatience with GF be part of the, gasp, fallout?

I really see, maybe, one person who is saying anything negative about Geno, and even then that person isn't being unreasonable. Why is saying that we don't look good negative towards GF?

Tornado, I ask the same of you?

I'm going nuts here. Somehow, saying we don't look good, is bashing GF? Even though from Day 1 I've said I expect no high than a 6th place finish and that 7th-9th is far more reasonable. I do not have high expectations for this team, and feel that the exhibition did nothing to change that. I think many feel that way. The vast majority of those are not 'ripping,' 'bashing,' or being 'negative.' I think it's being reasonable. GF inherited a last place team who lost it's leading scorer and it's starting 4/5 is gone for the season. I asked it once, and no one answered - If expectations are a middle of the pack finish (7-5th), and we get 8-10th did Geno fail this season? If not, then why is my expectation of 7th-9th negative and unreasonable?

Also, the 'types of fans' post is a BS in my opinion. I am not high on BU at all this season and do not think we will be very good, but I haven't reduced my donations at all and I just bought season tickets for the first time. Where do I fit? I don't think the types fit, nor do I see any reason to categorize fans into such buckets. I've never understoof the desire of some to call people 'good' fans and others 'bad' fans...

[Old Coach]

Very much aware of this. But I expect much more from a coach who is among the upper echelon of the pay scale in the MVC.

I'm sure that you're familiar with the phrase, "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken $#!^."