Red - White game

[shaunguth]

I've never read a post where anyone said anything close to not recruiting locally. What I have heard is why we recruit so much out of state. I believe what some of us have said is that we do not care where a recruit is from.

I agree....I do not care where a recruit is from either. However, just because you've never read such a post doesn't mean it's never happened. I believe most of those people hang out somewhere else these days.

[AZ BU Fan]

We won't be seeing TB in this game. While I would like to know how far along he is, he has been suspended for the scrimmage due to a violation of team rules.

What the *&*&^%^?

How hard can it be for an upperclassman (and a supposed team leader) to follow team rules?

What is wrong with this kid?

[Braves4Life]

I've never read a post where anyone said anything close to not recruiting locally. What I have heard is why we recruit so much out of state. I believe what some of us have said is that we do not care where a recruit is from.

I agree....I do not care where a recruit is from either. However, just because you've never read such a post doesn't mean it's never happened. I believe most of those people hang out somewhere else these days.

I'm with SFP on this one. Most people have said they want more of a concentration on local and in-state kids instead of these kids from TX, AK, NV, etc. that just don't seem to pan out like their press clippings would indicate. I like that the last few years we're now getting what appears to be quality in-state and local kids.

[Braves4Life]

What the *&*&^%^?

How hard can it be for an upperclassman (and a supposed team leader) to follow team rules?

What is wrong with this kid?

We discussed this before AZ (you nay have missed it while overseas) and none of us really know why TB has been disciplined. It could be something extremely minor (late/missing a practice, missing a class, etc). Let's see how things play out with TB this year; I think he'll be OK.

[shaunguth]

I'm with SFP on this one. Most people have said they want more of a concentration on local and in-state kids instead of these kids from TX, AK, NV, etc. that just don't seem to pan out like their press clippings would indicate. I like that the last few years we're now getting what appears to be quality in-state and local kids.

I know of one person in particular that is not high on recruiting local kids, but that person no longer exists here.

I have also seen plenty of people talk of recruiting Chicago. Besides, if you're speaking of the players from TX, AK, and NV that I believe you are.....I thought they were simply not being used right and it was the previous coach's fault for them not panning out, except in the cases when CB was on the staff. Those teams were obviously not JL's responsibility.

In fact, two kids from Texas come to mind that worked out rather well....Roberts and Franklin, along with a number of others from outside the Peoria area.

Like I said.....recruit the best players no matter where they're from. I simply stated that "some people don't believe in recruiting local players for whatever reason". I stand by that statement. I can't help it if others don't think there are people out there that think that way.

[Braves4Life]

..... if you're speaking of the players from TX, AK, and NV that I believe you are.....I thought they were simply not being used right......

I don't believe Egolf and Milos have been used right. It will be interesting to see if they fare better under Geno. AT just hasn't performed (for whatever reason). If these guys suddenly reach a higher level under Geno then we have our answer. If they don't then they were just bad recruits.

In fact, two kids from Texas come to mind that worked out rather well....Roberts and Franklin, along with a number of others from outside the Peoria area.

No doubt we've had some good recruits from outside Illinois. But the fact that Les switched up his thought process by recruiting better locally the last few years (and continued by Geno) shows that you can get a clearer picture and better look at a kid that you can hop in a car to watch whenever you want.

.... I simply stated that "some people don't believe in recruiting local players for whatever reason"...

No doubt there are a few people that think that way. That's what makes a message board what it is..... People with differing opinions often lead to good spirited debate. You know I've always been an advocate for minimal censoring, unless it crosses the line...... and the Mods here generally do a good job with this. When they don't I (and others) will always call them out on it. You and I don't always agree on things shaunguth (boy, is that an understatement ), but I respect and welcome your opinion and those of other posters..... even when I think you may be out of your mind.

[shaunguth]

No doubt there are a few people that think that way. That's what makes a message board what it is..... People with differing opinions often lead to good spirited debate. You know I've always been an advocate for minimal censoring, unless it crosses the line...... and the Mods here generally do a good job with this. When they don't I (and others) will always call them out on it. You and I don't always agree on things shaunguth (boy, is that an understatement ), but I respect and welcome your opinion and those of other posters..... even when I think you may be out of your mind.

Well.....there seems to be at least a few people that don't believe people think that way as evidenced by SFP's reply as well as your own. Simply by making the statement that "people don't believe in recruiting local players for whatever reason", now I'm being called stupid and a minion on another board? Interesting.

Maybe there was also a misunderstanding.......when I said "local" in that statement, I meant the Peoria area.....not Illinois.

[Old Coach]

I'm of the belief that Bradley should be able to do a majority of it's recruiting within 200-250 miles of Peoria.

[shaunguth]

I'm of the belief that Bradley should be able to do a majority of it's recruiting within 200-250 miles of Peoria.

I agree, but most of our current scholarship players do not fit that criteria.

[Braves4Life]

I agree, but most of our current scholarship players do not fit that criteria.

Prosser
Stewart
Hodges
Walt
DSE
Wells (at least close)
Crawford (close)
Shayok (if you count he went to school with Walt for a year)

[Old Coach]

I agree, but most of our current scholarship players do not fit that criteria.

I like the model that Butler has used in recent seasons. Last year, 10 of the 14 players on their roster were from Indiana.

[Da Coach]

I like the model that Butler has used in recent seasons. Last year, 10 of the 14 players on their roster were from Indiana.

That trend seems to be changing- 3 of their 4 2011 incoming recruits are from out of state, and also 3 out of their 4 future recruits are also from out of state.

[shaunguth]

I agree, but most of our current scholarship players do not fit that criteria.

Brown
Crawford
Eastman
Egolf
Knezevic
Shayok
Thompson

[Braves4Life]

Prosser
Stewart
Hodges
Walt
DSE
Wells (at least close)
Crawford (close)
Shayok (if you count he went to school with Walt for a year)

Brown
Crawford
Eastman
Egolf
Knezevic
Shayok
Thompson

I guess Shayok and Crawford would be the "swing votes" to determine a majority to fit your description of "most" shaunguth. Regardless of who's right or wrong, we have quite a few kids from the surrounding region and the trend toward this has definitely accelerated in recent years..... I think that's a good thing.

[shaunguth]

I guess Shayok and Crawford would be the "swing votes" to determine a majority to fit your description of "most" shaunguth. Regardless of who's right or wrong, we have quite a few kids from the surrounding region and the trend toward this has definitely accelerated in recent years..... I think that's a good thing.

I consider SS as being recruited out of IMG, but I don't know the particulars of his recruitment.

I'll give you Shayok as a "swing vote", but no way was Crawford recruited within 200-250 miles of Peoria. However, that's probably an opinion and I'm probably on the wrong side of it.