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  • #46
    Originally posted by Beninator View Post
    Same here. I wonder how often this would happen today at any school?
    I believe UNC-Asheville honored the scholarship of 7'8" Kenny George after he had his foot amputated and his career ended in 2008.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
      I would hope Bradley NEVER accepts your first standard real fan. Unless a kid gets in trouble, shows lack of effort, doesn't get along with his teammates, or has poor grades he should be allowed to stay on scholarship all four years if he so chooses.

      I would hope that BU never becomes like so many of those BCS schools (or ISU ) that run off players just to free up a scholie for a better player.
      Unfortunately we live in a world that expects winners and the coaching staff gets paid to produce championships, if our staff feels someone is not good enough to play on this team it has to have the power to make tough decisions as far as telling a player that if he expects to play then he needs to look elsewhere because he is not good enough to play here, you cannot keep unproductive players around if you plan on building a winner plus most players that do not improve are at fault for not working hard enough on their game over the summer.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
        I believe UNC-Asheville honored the scholarship of 7'8" Kenny George after he had his foot amputated and his career ended in 2008.
        His scholarship was probably moved toward an academic one and should have been honored as this is special circumstances.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by real fan View Post
          ... if our staff feels someone is not good enough to play on this team it has to have the power to make tough decisions as far as telling a player that if he expects to play then he needs to look elsewhere because he is not good enough to play here....
          I agree that a coach has the right and a responsibility to tell a player this...... and if the player is smart he will leave..... but I don't think he should be forced out if he wanted to stay. I'd hate to see a player who gave 3 years to the team (in practice, the classroom, and the community) be forced to leave -- one year shy of graduation -- if a new coach came in and didn't like his talent level.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
            I agree that a coach has the right and a responsibility to tell a player this...... and if the player is smart he will leave..... but I don't think he should be forced out if he wanted to stay.
            Good post, in fact I said something like it above. We are agreeing way too much today.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
              I believe UNC-Asheville honored the scholarship of 7'8" Kenny George after he had his foot amputated and his career ended in 2008.
              The NCAA actually has a special Medical Scholarship designation for athletes who's career is cut short due to injuries. Illinois State had a basketball player a couple years ago that they used this special designation for (Mike Vandello). The athlete can remain on full scholarship until they graduate, and it will not count toward their maximum limit of total scholarships.
              The medical condition has to be documented to the NCAA, and the athlete has to maintain good academic standing.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                Good post, in fact I said something like it above.

                I know Buesch. That's where I got it from..... I should have given you credit as well.

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                • #53
                  Getting back to the topic- There will be news about Coty Clarke tomorrow.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                    Getting back to the topic- There will be news about Coty Clarke tomorrow.
                    Thank you!
                    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by BuB View Post
                      The only reason a school should consider taking back a scholarship is:

                      1. student/athlete doesn't meet established academic standards
                      2. student/athlete gets in trouble with the law
                      3. student/athlete has broken established team rules

                      That's it. Once a coach or school has established that they are going to run off players for other reasons they risk other consequences. Other coaches will use it against you during recruiting and a lower APR rate are just two. Plus, if coach or school starts to run off guys when they realize a kid can't contribute then don't be upset when your stars realize they can play at a higher level and leave. IMO commitment is a two way street.
                      I would add one more.

                      4. If a student/athlete does not put in the necessary work that a coach requests in improving their game. A scholarship is like a job and if you are lazy you should get canned.

                      T - I know how ruthless the game is but it does not make it right. Too much is put on winning on the court IMO (trust me I like a winner) instead of teaching our youth good values. That is why I like Butler. They seem to have developed a great balance. I believe we are headed in the right direction and I hope we do not take any short cuts.

                      BTW I can't wait to hear about Coty.
                      "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                      ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        Getting back to the topic- There will be news about Coty Clarke tomorrow.
                        Good news I hope?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by bigjimmy View Post
                          Good news I hope?
                          I don't know yet. We all hope so!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                            But your grade is not based on your classmates also doing well.....
                            most of the time. There is a reason I hate group projects. . .

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                              I agree that a coach has the right and a responsibility to tell a player this...... and if the player is smart he will leave..... but I don't think he should be forced out if he wanted to stay. I'd hate to see a player who gave 3 years to the team (in practice, the classroom, and the community) be forced to leave -- one year shy of graduation -- if a new coach came in and didn't like his talent level.
                              I am not saying anything about a player that has been here 3 years being forced out, most likely would be someone else.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by real fan View Post
                                I am not saying anything about a player that has been here 3 years being forced out, most likely would be someone else.
                                I think that Braves4life's post may have been about the Rice football player I had written about in one of my earlier posts.
                                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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