Visitor on campus- Coty Clarke

[ph]

I think very few guys believe they will be sitting on the bench.
I'm sure Milos looked at this team and did not see a backlog of shooters or bigs...

[Da Coach]

Are you honestly saying that you would fire players for the team not winning games? Wow. You better fire the guys that start first, because they are much more responsible for the losses than the guys deep on the bench.

I would never attended a school where my scholarship was predicated on the actions of others.

The most successful coaches (Calipari, Self, Calhoun, etc) do dump players whenever they feel they need to free up another scholarship to better their teams. Calhoun just did it in an even more creative way and he's getting some flack for it because his team in on NCAA probation, and lost scholarships as a penalty.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/34697/player-has-to-give-up-scholly-for-drummond

http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/31921832

And they dump the least productive players, since it makes no sense to run off your best players.

[tornado]

it happened to Dodie at Iowa State

[Buesch N Chips]

I can see talking to a kid and being honest with him about his lack of a role and possibly looking elsewhere, even helping him look if he chose to, but if he wanted to stay, and did everything that was asked of him, even if he was not a significant factor, I would never pull a scholarship. I don't care what the big coaches do.

[SFP]

What ever happened to doing the right thing and living up to your word as a man? It goes both ways and I hope our institution and the players we recruit have the integrity to live the honest life. Too much in our society has been poisoned by me first attitude. Just look at what Wall Street has done to our economy.

[tornado]

What ever happened to doing the right thing and living up to your word as a man? It goes both ways and I hope our institution and the players we recruit have the integrity to live the honest life. Too much in our society has been poisoned by me first attitude. Just look at what Wall Street has done to our economy.

you have to be kidding -- recruiting at the college level and the offering of scholarships & the building of the strongest team possible is one of the dirtiest and most ruthless pursuits in the world...and the recent revelations of all the cheating, cash, extra benefits, money changing hands, and more are probably the tip of the iceberg of what really goes on.

[JMM28]

What ever happened to doing the right thing and living up to your word as a man? It goes both ways and I hope our institution and the players we recruit have the integrity to live the honest life. Too much in our society has been poisoned by me first attitude. Just look at what Wall Street has done to our economy.

It really isn't any different than academic scholarships. They require a certain gpa to renew on a yearly basis. Those recruited for superior academics are expected to maintain their superior academics. Same applies for athletes.

[Buesch N Chips]

It really isn't any different than academic scholarships. They require a certain gpa to renew on a yearly basis. Those recruited for superior academics are expected to maintain their superior academics. Same applies for athletes.

But your grade is not based on your classmates also doing well.....

[Da Coach]

Nice article about Coty from when he was in high school-

http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/article/6620027798222885761/pinson-valleys-coty-clarke-hopes-to-repeat-last-seasons-success/

[Beninator]

I would hope Bradley NEVER accepts your first standard real fan. Unless a kid gets in trouble, shows lack of effort, doesn't get along with his teammates, or has poor grades he should be allowed to stay on scholarship all four years if he so chooses.

I would hope that BU never becomes like so many of those BCS schools (or ISU ) that run off players just to free up a scholie for a better player.

I very much agree and would add graduate players as a main priority to the list. I also think that if a player is run off from a school, then that player should be free to go wherever he or she wants to without sitting out a year.

[Beninator]

Well I am pretty sure that the practice of taking scholarships away from players that were expecting 4 years would not be something that prospective recruits would like to hear.

I personally love the Pierre Cooper story.

Same here. I wonder how often this would happen today at any school?

[tornado]

Based on pretty good info - I believe Bradley has never taken a scholarship from a player who was ELIGIBLE and wanted to stay at BU - NEVER
...and this is a statement very few schools can make..........

[brocks]

so ANYWAY ... any word what we might expect RE Coty Clarke?

[BuB]

The only reason a school should consider taking back a scholarship is:

1. student/athlete doesn't meet established academic standards
2. student/athlete gets in trouble with the law
3. student/athlete has broken established team rules

That's it. Once a coach or school has established that they are going to run off players for other reasons they risk other consequences. Other coaches will use it against you during recruiting and a lower APR rate are just two. Plus, if coach or school starts to run off guys when they realize a kid can't contribute then don't be upset when your stars realize they can play at a higher level and leave. IMO commitment is a two way street.

[Beninator]

The only reason a school should consider taking back a scholarship is:

1. student/athlete doesn't meet established academic standards
2. student/athlete gets in trouble with the law
3. student/athlete has broken established team rules

That's it. Once a coach or school has established that they are going to run off players for other reasons they risk other consequences. Other coaches will use it against you during recruiting and a lower APR rate are just two. Plus, if coach or school starts to run off guys when they realize a kid can't contribute then don't be upset when your stars realize they can play at a higher level and leave. IMO commitment is a two way street.

See page 6 on the link of my "The Shame of College Sports" thread. In 2008-09, the article states that 22% of all NCAA basketball scholarships were not renewed. A Rice University football player is suing the NCAA to remove the one year rule. His claim is that without that rule, he would have been able to negotiate with each of the eight schools that recruited him for a guaranteed term for his scholarship. Sounds interesting and fair...