Big East teams Syracuse and Pittsburgh in talks with ACC

[TheAsianSensation]

These big schools are going to end up fighting more with each other over losing teams to one another that I would not worry about the NCAA basketball tour. because it will always be the best college tour. , it is a huge money maker and no reason to fix something that is not broken.

Well, you gotta be careful in realizing who would do the fixing.

Right now the NCAA has the contract with CBS and friends for the tourney. If the 4 superconferences split and try and create their own tournament, they can hope to get a deal similar to the one right now - but the money would be split between the 64 teams and 4 conferences instead of 350 schools and 30 conferences.

In the eyes of the superconferences, the tournament is broken because the profit those 4 conferences can make from the tournament is not maximized.


That said, I agree with SFP; it wouldn't happen for a few years as they sort everything out. It'll be in their minds that there is a potential revenue source they could tap into.

As for BU specifically, sure, test the waters, but I'm beginning to think MVC expansion (the kind of expansion where we add Butler, SLU, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, and Oral Bob) may be the countermeasure.

[Bravesfan]

Because in a 4-conference system, the four conference winners can play in a plus-one system that essentially IS a playoff.

These superconferences are actually a good sign if you want a playoff. The only problem is the main reason people wanted a playoff for in the first place (to allow Boise St-like teams a chance at the title) is actually going to be ignored in the final product. Instead of having a playoff to include more teams, the playoff installed will actually be MORE restrictive to non-BCS teams than the current system.

What a mess.

I see your point about what they were thinking. But yes, Boise St. and other similar teams won't be part of the new playoff system, so it won't even matter to anyone outside these 64 teams anyway.

[Bravesfan]

Well, you gotta be careful in realizing who would do the fixing.

Right now the NCAA has the contract with CBS and friends for the tourney. If the 4 superconferences split and try and create their own tournament, they can hope to get a deal similar to the one right now - but the money would be split between the 64 teams and 4 conferences instead of 350 schools and 30 conferences.

In the eyes of the superconferences, the tournament is broken because the profit those 4 conferences can make from the tournament is not maximized.


That said, I agree with SFP; it wouldn't happen for a few years as they sort everything out. It'll be in their minds that there is a potential revenue source they could tap into.

As for BU specifically, sure, test the waters, but I'm beginning to think MVC expansion (the kind of expansion where we add Butler, SLU, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, and Oral Bob) may be the countermeasure.

Quick question. How would a stronger basketball only MVC be a countermeasure to a possible split of the four superconferences into their own tournament? Would that mean the MVC would become the "ACC" of a possible I-AA division?

[TheAsianSensation]

Quick question. How would a stronger basketball only MVC be a countermeasure to a possible split of the four superconferences into their own tournament? Would that mean the MVC would become the "ACC" of a possible I-AA division?

Either that, or the other option: There's going to be SOME basketball only schools who will try and join a split. Georgetown, Nova, St John's, Xavier, and a few leftovers from the Big East/A-10 will probably unite. And there's some major markets in there, such that the 4 superconferences invite them to come along for the split.

So, the MVC can expand to either convince the superconferences they deserve to be part of the split themselves, and if not, become the absolute pre-eminent conference in the "I-AA". A conference with the MVC schools itself won't have a chance. The MVC plus a few Big East castoffs and Butler? Now that's a fighting chance.

[Da Coach]

Pac-12 "Superconference" getting closer to reality. They are working on adding Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State.-

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/sports/ncaafootball/19pac12.html

[SFP]

What makes me laugh is Kansas and their arrogance. Who will the Big Ten pick up through this.

[TheAsianSensation]

What makes me laugh is Kansas and their arrogance. Who will the Big Ten pick up through this.

You can put almost the entire Big 12 on the arrogance list.

The Big 10 is in trouble. Their expansion plan was going to be east. That avenue is closed. Jim Delany done goofed this one up.

[SFP]

You can put almost the entire Big 12 on the arrogance list.

The Big 10 is in trouble. Their expansion plan was going to be east. That avenue is closed. Jim Delany done goofed this one up.

and so may TX and OK Avenues. They still should go after ND hard and I have no idea who after that....

[TheAsianSensation]

and so may TX and OK Avenues. They still should go after ND hard and I have no idea who after that....

Notre Dame
Missouri
Kansas
West Virginia

Those 4 make sense, IMO. Of course, WVU is applying to the SEC now.

Delany's been handcuffed by Notre Dame. He keeps waiting for them.

[thefish7]

Notre Dame
Missouri
Kansas
West Virginia

Those 4 make sense, IMO. Of course, WVU is applying to the SEC now.

Delany's been handcuffed by Notre Dame. He keeps waiting for them.

Baylor or Iowa State as alternates if they can't get WVU?

Or I guess K-State?

[SFP]

Notre Dame
Missouri
Kansas
West Virginia

Those 4 make sense, IMO. Of course, WVU is applying to the SEC now.

Delany's been handcuffed by Notre Dame. He keeps waiting for them.

Great for basketball but it does not do much for football. They need to be bold and go after OK hard. OK is a better fit in the Big Ten then the Pac 16.

[Fetz86]

The couch burners from WVU will not get into the the B1G, they are no where close to AAU status. Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, and then hope you can convince ND

[TheAsianSensation]

Great for basketball but it does not do much for football. They need to be bold and go after OK hard. OK is a better fit in the Big Ten then the Pac 16.

I'd agree, but they're out of time. Everyone of real value is already being courted elsewhere. Delany is going to be left with the scraps.

[SFP]

I'd agree, but they're out of time. Everyone of real value is already being courted elsewhere. Delany is going to be left with the scraps.

I agree and I thought as much when they went after Neb. and not OK as well. This is not the time to be overly cautious. Look how being cautious and slow has hurt Obama.

[MacabreMob]

Hey... I'm kinda curious. After all this football superconference stuff shakes out... and a break from plain old NCAA to the BCS... will these superconference teams break from NCAA rulings? Keep the money to themselves. Govern themselves. Like... how long will it take til Chief Illiniwek can return? How long til these football driven schools decide they don't have to abide by political correctness and basically do whatever they want for themselves especially if it drives interest and income?