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    MVC Expansion

    Here's some news that has NOT been widely discussed....

    The Missouri Valley has been looking to expand and one current new D-I hopeful - independent was actually slated to JOIN the Missouri Valley in baseball...and it is rumored that Oral Roberts may also join giving the Valley 12 baseball members...

    But.....
    now DBU is being pursued by another conference, the WAC, and Doug Elgin is bummed....
    http://www.kansas.com/2011/09/14/2016769/dallas-baptist-baseball-reconsiders.html

    Dallas Baptist to get provisional year with MVC
    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/colleges/post/_/id/4672619/dallas-baptist-to-get-provisional-year-with-mvc
    DALLAS -- Dallas Baptist University could be placed in its first Division I conference as soon as the end of next year.DBU’s baseball program will have a provisional year with the Missouri Valley Conference next season, meaning the Patriots will have a full MVC schedule but will not be listed in the standings or play in the conference tournament.



    BTW -- Dallas Baptist has produced 11 major league baseball players including this well known Major Leaguer --
    Ben Zobrist
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  • #2
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    Here's some news that has NOT been widely discussed....

    The Missouri Valley has been looking to expand and one current new D-I hopeful - independent was actually slated to JOIN the Missouri Valley in baseball...and it is rumored that Oral Roberts may also join giving the Valley 12 baseball members...

    But.....
    now DBU is being pursued by another conference, the WAC, and Doug Elgin is bummed....
    http://www.kansas.com/2011/09/14/2016769/dallas-baptist-baseball-reconsiders.html

    Dallas Baptist to get provisional year with MVC
    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/colleges/post/_/id/4672619/dallas-baptist-to-get-provisional-year-with-mvc
    DALLAS -- Dallas Baptist University could be placed in its first Division I conference as soon as the end of next year.DBU’s baseball program will have a provisional year with the Missouri Valley Conference next season, meaning the Patriots will have a full MVC schedule but will not be listed in the standings or play in the conference tournament.



    BTW -- Dallas Baptist has produced 11 major league baseball players including this well known Major Leaguer --
    Ben Zobrist
    Sorry. I had just posted adding Dallas Baptist would be a horrible move in basketball, but I guess I should read the articles first! They and Oral Roberts would be great for their baseball conference, and I hope Dallas Baptist reconsiders joining the WAC.

    Previous post deleted.

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    • #3
      So are we trying to pick up FB or BB schools? Sorry, I haven't had the time to read the article.
      ... At the end, of the storm, there's a golden sky. And the sweet silver song of the lark. Walk on, through the wind, walk on, through the rain, though your dreams be tossed, and blown. Walk on, Walk on with hope in your hearts, and you'll never walk alone!
      I'm behind you 100% Bradley Braves, You'll Never Walk Alone! BEAT STATE!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BUFanatic View Post
        So are we trying to pick up FB or BB schools? Sorry, I haven't had the time to read the article.
        right now just trying to expand possibly to 12 in baseball, but who knows -
        maybe down the road they might be good (ORU already is) and join in basketball...

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        • #5
          Expanding the MVC is just not going to cut it for the viability of BU basketball playing at the highest level. JG's legacy at BU will be determined greatly by where BU lands in this changing landscape. The status quo will not cut it IMHO and I doubt sticking with the current MVC brand will cut the mustard. This is the time to be pro-active in building a basketball centric conference with national recognition. I'm afraid to tell most of you the Valley has lost its luster and its markets will not bring in the revenue needed to make it a premier conference.
          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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          • #6
            Baseball D-I hopeful Dallas Baptist snubs the Valley and heads to the WAC in 2013
            Baseball Accepts Invitation to Join WAC - Dallas Baptist University Athletics
            http://dbupatriots.com/news/2011/9/19/BB_0919114630.aspx
            Patriots agree to join Western Athletic Conference beginning in 2013


            BUT -- for at least one year they will be an affiliate member of the Missouri Valley...

            "For the 2012 season, Dallas Baptist will participate in a scheduling agreement with the Missouri Valley Conference
            which allows the Patriots to play a full MVC schedule but does not permit DBU to play in the conference tournament.
            To once again compete in an NCAA Regional, the Patriots must earn an at-large bid from the tournament committee."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SFP View Post
              Expanding the MVC is just not going to cut it for the viability of BU basketball playing at the highest level. JG's legacy at BU will be determined greatly by where BU lands in this changing landscape. The status quo will not cut it IMHO and I doubt sticking with the current MVC brand will cut the mustard. This is the time to be pro-active in building a basketball centric conference with national recognition. I'm afraid to tell most of you the Valley has lost its luster and its markets will not bring in the revenue needed to make it a premier conference.
              I agree. Even the Valley of 4 or 5 years ago would probably not stand up during this time of change.

              I think a midwest based conference of basketball only schools would work well. Which ones would fit I don't know, but I'd be glad to trade out Indiana St. and Evansville for Butler and Oral Roberts. That would be a great start. Add Xavier and Dayton and we may have something. I suppose DePaul would have to be added as well, and hopefully they get better with time.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
                I agree. Even the Valley of 4 or 5 years ago would probably not stand up during this time of change.

                I think a midwest based conference of basketball only schools would work well. Which ones would fit I don't know, but I'd be glad to trade out Indiana St. and Evansville for Butler and Oral Roberts. That would be a great start. Add Xavier and Dayton and we may have something. I suppose DePaul would have to be added as well, and hopefully they get better with time.
                DePaul, SLU, Butler, Creighton, Marquette and Xavier would be the cornerstone to a mid-west basketball conference with private schools. DePaul would be a must for its market potential and TV draw. How do you think they ended up in the Big East?
                "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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                • #9
                  Now the latest rumor of MVC expansion...

                  Air Force is said to be staying in the Mountain West for FOOTBALL only and
                  possibly going to the Missouri Valley for all other sports!
                  http://www.gazette.com/sports/gen-126331-west-names.html

                  Journal Star: Local News, Politics & Sports in Peoria, IL
                  http://blogs.pjstar.com/wessler/2011/10/06/air-force-in-the-missouri-valley-anything-is-possible/
                  Get the latest breaking news, sports, entertainment and obituaries in Peoria, IL from Peoria Journal Star.


                  but a number of other recent articles have speculated Air Force to CUSA, Big East, and other conferences also...
                  Rivals: Football & Basketball Recruiting
                  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-conferencerealignment-bigeast
                  The definitive source for all Rivals.com news.

                  http://www.sunherald.com/2011/10/04/3484768/c-usa-keeps-talking-merger.html

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                  • #10
                    It'd be GREAT for the MVC to pick up a school with as big a name as Air Force!
                    ... At the end, of the storm, there's a golden sky. And the sweet silver song of the lark. Walk on, through the wind, walk on, through the rain, though your dreams be tossed, and blown. Walk on, Walk on with hope in your hearts, and you'll never walk alone!
                    I'm behind you 100% Bradley Braves, You'll Never Walk Alone! BEAT STATE!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BUFanatic View Post
                      It'd be GREAT for the MVC to pick up a school with as big a name as Air Force!
                      Agreed completely, big move if we make it. Glad to see a mid-major besides the MWC being pro-active. Not to mention it would easily be the best academic institution in the Valley, particularly in engineering.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                        Agreed completely, big move if we make it. Glad to see a mid-major besides the MWC being pro-active. Not to mention it would easily be the best academic institution in the Valley, particularly in engineering.
                        I wonder if the AFA could compete with the SIU aviation program?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                          Agreed completely, big move if we make it. Glad to see a mid-major besides the MWC being pro-active. Not to mention it would easily be the best academic institution in the Valley, particularly in engineering.
                          Oh shoot, that was BU's claim to fame hahaha I don't know what they'll do about the sports they don't have like fencing and such mentioned in the article.
                          ... At the end, of the storm, there's a golden sky. And the sweet silver song of the lark. Walk on, through the wind, walk on, through the rain, though your dreams be tossed, and blown. Walk on, Walk on with hope in your hearts, and you'll never walk alone!
                          I'm behind you 100% Bradley Braves, You'll Never Walk Alone! BEAT STATE!

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                          • #14
                            There's talk that Air Force, whether they move conferences or not, is worried about competitiveness in the MWC for all sports and want to downgrade. So I don't think this is a slam dunk for the MVC but you probably make the move.

                            In other news, I've heard Oral Bob get linked to talks with the Southland. I thought they'd shoot higher.

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                            • #15
                              Air Force not a good fit for the Valley.

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