Brand New Rivals Illinois Class of 2013 rankings

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Just out today -- here's how it stacks up... http://illinois.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1260365

Positions 1-10 are ranked in order, the next 10 are listed alphabetically...

1 - Jabari Parker - hard to argue as he's viewed as one of the top players nationally
2 - Kendall Stephens - Purdue commit, rumored to be headed to La Lumiere - if so then he's no longer in Illinois
3 - Thomas Hamilton - hardly played this summer so this is a puzzle - some have dropped Hamilton in the rankings
4 - Kendrick Nunn - verballed to Texas A&M
5 - Malcolm Hill - considering Illinois, Mizzou, K-State
6 - Jalen James - verballed to Illinois
7 - Billy Garrett, Jr. - DePaul
8 - Sterling Brown - this is another puzzler - hardly a mention on him over the summer - but I guess being the brother of an NBA'er has its privileges
9 - Jaylon Tate - still wide open but a lot of people think he wants to play at Illinois with James
10 - Alvin Ellis

11-20 alphabetically- BU has offers out to several of these kids

Jubril Adekoya
Jared Brownridge
Kyle Davis
Alex Foster
Marquis Pryor
AJ Riley
Gavin Schilling
Nate Taphorn
Xzavier Taylor
Lance Whitaker

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8 - Sterling Brown - this is another puzzler - hardly a mention on him over the summer - but I guess being the brother of an NBA'er has its privileges

Being a very good basketball player has its privileges as well; kid can ball.

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I never said he wasn't but we'll have a chance to see him becasue his very first game of the high school season is at
the State Farm Tournament of Champions in Washington, Illinois.

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.....Lance Whitaker

Lance Whitaker is getting a lot of mid-major offers, and in a new interview this morning - says he holds his UC-Davis offer among the best he has and is visiting there next month

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2175:lance-whitaker-talks-uic-visit&catid=34:recruiting

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scout.com just updated their ratings after the busy summer AAU period ....here are the rankings of Illinois kids for 2013...including the kids we are most actively targeting...
this is how it sorts out IN ORDER although it's an automated list but it sure does have a few guys lower than expected....

You can go to the scout site and check for all the schools attached to each player - I have only cited a few of the upper ones..
You can debate all you want and refute the source of this info or these lists' accuracy but...these people do this for a living, are out on the recruiting trail all the time, and actually talk with the kids and the coaches.
They do make mistakes but mostly on the lower ranked kids that they just don't track with the same effort they track to higher rated kids.
But it's hard to say there's any better source - since I know most message board posters do not see the AAU events not talk with recruits or coaches.


#1 (and also #1 nationally) Jabari Parker SF (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/215 SG - still available
#2 Kendrick Nunn (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG (ranked #10 nationally) - still available
#3 Kendall Stephens (St. Charles East HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Purdue
#4 Malcolm Hill (Belleville High School-East) Belleville, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Illinois but has been injured/ill all summer
#5 Sterling Brown (Proviso East HS) Maywood, IL 6-4/180 SF still available but multiple BCS offers
#6 Billy Garrett (Morgan Park Academy) Chicago, IL 6-4/175 PG/SG Committed to DePaul
#7 Kyle Davis (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG still available - rumors of academic issues are holding back offers
#8 Tommy Hamilton (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-9/230 Center - still open but some rate much lower and cite both academics and work ethic
#9 Anthony Beane Jr. (Normal Community HS) Normal, IL 6-2/170 PG Committed to Illinois State then reopened and chose SIU
#10 Lorenzo Dillard (Evanston Twp HS) Evanston, IL 6-0/160 PG - still open but serious concerns on academcis and the kid still has no offers
#11 Jaylon Tate (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-2/180 PG - still available but already has double digit offers
#12 Markee Williams (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 5-10/165 PG - still available but has no offers listed
#13 Keith Langston (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-4/170 SG - still available
#14 Quinten Payne (St. Charles North HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-4/175 SG Committed to Loyola-Chicago
#15 A.J. Riley (Manual HS) Peoria, IL 6-2/175 PG/SG the only kid in the entire top 50 who has Bradley attached to his name - scout doesn't rate Ben Moore -
#16 Lance Whitaker (Bartlett HS) Bartlett, IL 6-3/- SG still available
#17 Alvin Ellis (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-4/185 SF still avail, but has many offers
#18 DeShawn Munson (East St Louis Senior HS) East Saint Louis, IL 6-3/185 SF Illinois, Illinois State, Missouri State, Tennessee but still available
#19 Nate Taphorn (Pekin Community HS) Pekin, IL 6-6/205 SF Committed to Northwestern
#20 Moshawn Thomas (Bogan Computer Technical HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 SF - still avail
#21 Jubril Adekoya (Victor J. Andrew HS) Tinley Park, IL 6-6/215 PF committed to Valparaiso
#22 Alex Foster (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 PF available but has multiple top offers and I have absolutely no idea why scout has him so low
#23 Anthony Patty (St. Joseph HS) Westchester, IL 6-8/190 PF
#24 A.J. Petty (St. Joseph's Carondelet) Chicago, IL 6-8/185 PF (this is an error and probably a mistype of the #23 guy)
#25 Gavin Schilling (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-9/- PF
#26 Russell Woods (Leo Catholic HS)
#27 Andrew McAuliffe (Glenbrook North HS) Committed to Davidson
#28 Xzavier Taylor (Morgan Park HS)
#29 Royale Ewing (St. Patrick HS)
#30 Marvie Keith (Crete-Monee HS)
#31 Jared Brownridge (Waubonsie Valley HS)
#32 David Cohn (York Comm HS) Committed to Colorado State
#33 Garret Covington (Edwardsville HS)
#34 Alec Peters (Washington Comm HS) - again kinda stumped why so low??
#35 Lamar Wofford (Homewood-Flossmoor HS)
#36 Andrew Drone (Gallatin HS)
#37 Hunter Reine (Roxana Sr HS)
#38 Mike Rueffer (Batavia Sr HS)
#39 Cory Dolins (Niles West HS)
#40 Marcus Fair (Plainfield North HS)
#41 Paris Lee (Proviso East HS) Committed to Illinois State - kinda got this guy pretty low also
#42 Preston Wells (Richwoods HS)
#43 Brad Zaumseil (Barrington HS)
#44 Morris Dunnigan (Joliet Twp HS - Alternat)
#45 Kevin Kozan (Providence Catholic HS)
#46 L.J. McIntosh (Marist HS)
#47 Cordero Rudder (Tinley Park HS)
#48 Joshua Peak (Jacksonville HS)
#49 Marquise Pryor (Orr Community Academy HS)

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=11&cfg=bb&yr=2013&pid=-1&sspid=67&iRatingValue=-1&iGetJUCOFlag=-1&iCommitFlag=-1&iGroupbyPosition=0&toinid=-1&iInterestLevelId=-1&iOffer=-1&iRecruitVisitFlag=-1&OrderbyColumn=RatingValue

Coincidentally, Rivals also ranks 49 players from Illinois in Class of 2013, although not the same 49 as they include a few more juco kids

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/recruit-search-results

Rivals connects Bradley to six of these kids - Cohn, Taphorn, Moore, Pollard, Ward, and Brownridge - but we're actually still active on only 2 or 3...


But I have reason to believe we are still targeting some other juco kids...... even DR who was listing numerous names last summer and even all the way up 'til
a couple months ago - has mentioned only a couple new names since...so are we playing "closer to the vest" now or what --- and why??

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But I have reason to believe we are still targeting some other juco kids...... even DR who was listing numerous names last summer and even all the way up 'til
a couple months ago - has mentioned only a couple new names since...so are we playing "closer to the vest" now or what --- and why??

Bradley is recruiting JUCO kids.

I have no idea if Bradley is playing it "closer to the vest". I personally don't think so from what I have been told. I know some people want an update every single day in the PJ Star but it doesn't work that way.

When there is something significant to publish I am sure it will get published. Just because something hasn't been released publicly doesn't mean people don't know about it.

Do you think Geno Ford knows how to recruit?

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scout.com just updated their ratings after the busy summer AAU period ....here are the rankings of Illinois kids for 2013...

#9 Anthony Beane Jr. (Normal Community HS) Normal, IL 6-2/170 PG Committed to Illinois State then reopened and chose SIU

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I know - there must have once been talk of him "reclassifying" (or "repeating") because they're not the only site that mistakenly have him as 2013

http://www.hoopsrecruits.com/index.php/prospects/class-of-2013/671-anthony-beane

http://mississippi.scout.com/a.z?s=177&p=8&c=1&nid=5315479

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#1 (and also #1 nationally) Jabari Parker SF (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/215 SG - still available
#2 Kendrick Nunn (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG (ranked #10 nationally) - still available
#3 Kendall Stephens (St. Charles East HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Purdue
#4 Malcolm Hill (Belleville High School-East) Belleville, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Illinois but has been injured/ill all summer
#5 Sterling Brown (Proviso East HS) Maywood, IL 6-4/180 SF still available but multiple BCS offers
#6 Billy Garrett (Morgan Park Academy) Chicago, IL 6-4/175 PG/SG Committed to DePaul
#7 Kyle Davis (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG still available - rumors of academic issues are holding back offers
#8 Tommy Hamilton (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-9/230 Center - still open but some rate much lower and cite both academics and work ethic
#9 Anthony Beane Jr. (Normal Community HS) Normal, IL 6-2/170 PG Committed to Illinois State then reopened and chose SIU
#10 Lorenzo Dillard (Evanston Twp HS) Evanston, IL 6-0/160 PG - still open but serious concerns on academcis and the kid still has no offers
#11 Jaylon Tate (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-2/180 PG - still available but already has double digit offers
#12 Markee Williams (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 5-10/165 PG - still available but has no offers listed
#13 Keith Langston (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-4/170 SG - still available
#14 Quinten Payne (St. Charles North HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-4/175 SG Committed to Loyola-Chicago
#15 A.J. Riley (Manual HS) Peoria, IL 6-2/175 PG/SG the only kid in the entire top 50 who has Bradley attached to his name - scout doesn't rate Ben Moore -
#16 Lance Whitaker (Bartlett HS) Bartlett, IL 6-3/- SG still available
#17 Alvin Ellis (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-4/185 SF still avail, but has many offers
#18 DeShawn Munson (East St Louis Senior HS) East Saint Louis, IL 6-3/185 SF Illinois, Illinois State, Missouri State, Tennessee but still available
#19 Nate Taphorn (Pekin Community HS) Pekin, IL 6-6/205 SF Committed to Northwestern
#20 Moshawn Thomas (Bogan Computer Technical HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 SF - still avail
#21 Jubril Adekoya (Victor J. Andrew HS) Tinley Park, IL 6-6/215 PF committed to Valparaiso
#22 Alex Foster (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 PF available but has multiple top offers and I have absolutely no idea why scout has him so low
#23 Anthony Patty (St. Joseph HS) Westchester, IL 6-8/190 PF
#24 A.J. Petty (St. Joseph's Carondelet) Chicago, IL 6-8/185 PF (this is an error and probably a mistype of the #23 guy)
#25 Gavin Schilling (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-9/- PF
#26 Russell Woods (Leo Catholic HS)
#27 Andrew McAuliffe (Glenbrook North HS) Committed to Davidson
#28 Xzavier Taylor (Morgan Park HS)
#29 Royale Ewing (St. Patrick HS)
#30 Marvie Keith (Crete-Monee HS)
#31 Jared Brownridge (Waubonsie Valley HS)
#32 David Cohn (York Comm HS) Committed to Colorado State
#33 Garret Covington (Edwardsville HS)
#34 Alec Peters (Washington Comm HS) - again kinda stumped why so low??
#35 Lamar Wofford (Homewood-Flossmoor HS)
#36 Andrew Drone (Gallatin HS)
#37 Hunter Reine (Roxana Sr HS)
#38 Mike Rueffer (Batavia Sr HS)
#39 Cory Dolins (Niles West HS)
#40 Marcus Fair (Plainfield North HS)
#41 Paris Lee (Proviso East HS) Committed to Illinois State - kinda got this guy pretty low also
#42 Preston Wells (Richwoods HS)
#43 Brad Zaumseil (Barrington HS)
#44 Morris Dunnigan (Joliet Twp HS - Alternat)
#45 Kevin Kozan (Providence Catholic HS)
#46 L.J. McIntosh (Marist HS)
#47 Cordero Rudder (Tinley Park HS)
#48 Joshua Peak (Jacksonville HS)
#49 Marquise Pryor (Orr Community Academy HS)

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=11&cfg=bb&yr=2013&pid=-1&sspid=67&iRatingValue=-1&iGetJUCOFlag=-1&iCommitFlag=-1&iGroupbyPosition=0&toinid=-1&iInterestLevelId=-1&iOffer=-1&iRecruitVisitFlag=-1&OrderbyColumn=RatingValue

Serious question: Why did you put the #'s by the players above? According to your link the players aren't ranked. They are just listed by stars, last names and position played.

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I used the scout.com search feature....and requested a search of Class of 2013 kids IN ILLINOIS and asked that it be
"Sorted by" RANKING...by THEIR ranking - not mine.
.. and of course I made clear mention that Rivals did not put them in the same ranked order

so they (scout.com, Dave Telep, Evans Daniels, Brian Snow, even Jody Demling and many others who are experts who work for scout.com)
...they are the ones who put the kids' names in THAT ORDER according to the scout.com ranking...

I didn't make any effort to shuffle them, those are the site, scout.com, ranks them...

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so they (scout.com, Dave Telep, Evans Daniels, Brian Snow, even Jody Demling and many others who are experts who work for scout.com)
...they are the ones who put the kids' names in THAT ORDER according to the scout.com ranking...

I didn't make any effort to shuffle them, those are the site, scout.com, ranks them...

Just so we are clear though.....you put the #'s next to their names. Not scout. Scout ranked a few players nationally (from Parker to Hamilton).

It's very deceptive that Dillard has a #10 next to his name, but then a guy like Gavin Schilling is way down at #25. Truth is, they are both 3 stars according to Scout. Dillard is listed higher because scout decided to list PG's first, and then there is the last name thing too.

After Hamilton, the #'s really mean nothing. There are 20 guys from that list that have 3 stars. Anyone of them could be directly behind Hamilton.

I have no problem with scout or anyone else. Just the #'s above. Sorry to nit pick that.

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sorry it' so confusing....had I asked for the ranking according to ranking then presented it in any other order - then maybe you'd have cause to argue -- but if it's just that, then here's the list in the order scout.com ranks them....and I have removed the numbers....had I left the national position rankings that they provided that would have also been confusing and generated complaints --

Jabari Parker SF (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/215 SG - still available
Kendrick Nunn (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG (ranked #10 nationally) - still available
Kendall Stephens (St. Charles East HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Purdue
Malcolm Hill (Belleville High School-East) Belleville, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Illinois but has been injured/ill all summer
Sterling Brown (Proviso East HS) Maywood, IL 6-4/180 SF still available but multiple BCS offers
Billy Garrett (Morgan Park Academy) Chicago, IL 6-4/175 PG/SG Committed to DePaul
Kyle Davis (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG still available - rumors of academic issues are holding back offers
Tommy Hamilton (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-9/230 Center - still open but some rate much lower and cite both academics and work ethic
Anthony Beane Jr. (Normal Community HS) Normal, IL 6-2/170 PG Committed to Illinois State then reopened and chose SIU
Lorenzo Dillard (Evanston Twp HS) Evanston, IL 6-0/160 PG - still open but serious concerns on academcis and the kid still has no offers
Jaylon Tate (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-2/180 PG - still available but already has double digit offers
Markee Williams (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 5-10/165 PG - still available but has no offers listed
Keith Langston (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-4/170 SG - still available
Quinten Payne (St. Charles North HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-4/175 SG Committed to Loyola-Chicago
A.J. Riley (Manual HS) Peoria, IL 6-2/175 PG/SG the only kid in the entire top 50 who has Bradley attached to his name - scout doesn't rate Ben Moore -
Lance Whitaker (Bartlett HS) Bartlett, IL 6-3/- SG still available
Alvin Ellis (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-4/185 SF still avail, but has many offers
DeShawn Munson (East St Louis Senior HS) East Saint Louis, IL 6-3/185 SF Illinois, Illinois State, Missouri State, Tennessee but still available
Nate Taphorn (Pekin Community HS) Pekin, IL 6-6/205 SF Committed to Northwestern
Moshawn Thomas (Bogan Computer Technical HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 SF - still avail
Jubril Adekoya (Victor J. Andrew HS) Tinley Park, IL 6-6/215 PF committed to Valparaiso
Alex Foster (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-7/200 PF available but has multiple top offers and I have absolutely no idea why scout has him so low
Anthony Patty (St. Joseph HS) Westchester, IL 6-8/190 PF
A.J. Petty (St. Joseph's Carondelet) Chicago, IL 6-8/185 PF (this is an error and probably a mistype of the #23 guy)
Gavin Schilling (De La Salle Institute) Chicago, IL 6-9/- PF
Russell Woods (Leo Catholic HS)
Andrew McAuliffe (Glenbrook North HS) Committed to Davidson
Xzavier Taylor (Morgan Park HS)
Royale Ewing (St. Patrick HS)
Marvie Keith (Crete-Monee HS)
Jared Brownridge (Waubonsie Valley HS)
David Cohn (York Comm HS) Committed to Colorado State
Garret Covington (Edwardsville HS)
Alec Peters (Washington Comm HS) - again kinda stumped why so low??
Lamar Wofford (Homewood-Flossmoor HS)
Andrew Drone (Gallatin HS)
Hunter Reine (Roxana Sr HS)
Mike Rueffer (Batavia Sr HS)
Cory Dolins (Niles West HS)
Marcus Fair (Plainfield North HS)
Paris Lee (Proviso East HS) Committed to Illinois State - kinda got this guy pretty low also
Preston Wells (Richwoods HS)
Brad Zaumseil (Barrington HS)
Morris Dunnigan (Joliet Twp HS - Alternat)
Kevin Kozan (Providence Catholic HS)
L.J. McIntosh (Marist HS)
Cordero Rudder (Tinley Park HS)
Joshua Peak (Jacksonville HS)
Marquise Pryor (Orr Community Academy HS)

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#1 (and also #1 nationally) Jabari Parker SF (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-7/215 SG - still available
#2 Kendrick Nunn (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG (ranked #10 nationally) - still available
#3 Kendall Stephens (St. Charles East HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Purdue
#4 Malcolm Hill (Belleville High School-East) Belleville, IL 6-5/165 SG committed to Illinois but has been injured/ill all summer
#5 Sterling Brown (Proviso East HS) Maywood, IL 6-4/180 SF still available but multiple BCS offers
#6 Billy Garrett (Morgan Park Academy) Chicago, IL 6-4/175 PG/SG Committed to DePaul
#7 Kyle Davis (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 6-1/165 SG still available - rumors of academic issues are holding back offers
#8 Tommy Hamilton (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-9/230 Center - still open but some rate much lower and cite both academics and work ethic
#9 Anthony Beane Jr. (Normal Community HS) Normal, IL 6-2/170 PG Committed to Illinois State then reopened and chose SIU
#10 Lorenzo Dillard (Evanston Twp HS) Evanston, IL 6-0/160 PG - still open but serious concerns on academcis and the kid still has no offers
#11 Jaylon Tate (Simeon Vocational HS) Chicago, IL 6-2/180 PG - still available but already has double digit offers
#12 Markee Williams (Morgan Park HS) Chicago, IL 5-10/165 PG - still available but has no offers listed
#13 Keith Langston (Whitney Young Magnet HS) Chicago, IL 6-4/170 SG - still available
#14 Quinten Payne (St. Charles North HS) Saint Charles, IL 6-4/175 SG Committed to Loyola-Chicago
#15 A.J. Riley (Manual HS) Peoria, IL 6-2/175 PG/SG the only kid in the entire top 50 who has Bradley attached to his name - scout doesn't rate Ben Moore -

But I have reason to believe we are still targeting some other juco kids...... even DR who was listing numerous names last summer and even all the way up 'til
a couple months ago - has mentioned only a couple new names since...so are we playing "closer to the vest" now or what --- and why??

First of all, saying AJ Riley is the ONLY kid Bradley is targeting in the top 50 is a ridiculous statement. As a matter of fact, #13 on your list..Keith Langston, was on campus this spring and may be getting ready to visit sometime this fall. And, as you know, Bradley was recruiting others on the list that chose other schools. You make it sound like the Bradley staff is ignoring Illinois prep players and only recruiting JC's. Finally, if they are playing it closer to the vest, it sure doesn't appear to be so, since almost weekly we get an update of recruiting information from Dave Reynolds.....

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... Finally, if they are playing it closer to the vest, it sure doesn't appear to be so, since almost weekly we get an update of recruiting information from Dave Reynolds.....

I am not sure most Bradley fans would agree with you.
For the record, Dave's latest "update" actually reveals no new recruiting names. He says Bradley has offers out to about 2 dozen recruits, but he only mentions 2 names of recruits who are still available, Sean O'Brien and Ben Moore, and both of those names have been known for a while now. This time last year, there were a lot of new names being reported, including about dozen new juco recruits who were contacted at a couple of the same juco events the staff attended this July, too. We know they are targeting some jucos this year, but that info is apparently being kept "closer to the vest".

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I am not sure most Bradley fans would agree with you.
For the record, Dave's latest "update" actually reveals no new recruiting names. He says Bradley has offers out to about 2 dozen recruits, but he only mentions 2 names of recruits who are still available, Sean O'Brien and Ben Moore, and both of those names have been known for a while now. This time last year, there were a lot of new names being reported, including about dozen new juco recruits who were contacted at a couple of the same juco events the staff attended this July, too. We know they are targeting some jucos this year, but that info is apparently being kept "closer to the vest".

How does one person speak for "most Bradley fans"? I wouldn't dare try to speak for an entire fan base.

Anyway...there is certainly more recruiting information made available now then there was in the past. From a fan perspective I guess that is nice in the off season but it doesn't really affect the ultimate bottom line of wins and losses.

As a fan I do not feel that the PJ Star or the coaching staff owe me any recruiting information. Anything I get to read/hear about I consider a nice perk or icing on the cake. Some coaches are more open with their recruiting, some are not. I don't think it matters to the final product one way or another.

I'm personally thankful Dave has been writing a lot of articles/blogs this summer.