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  • All time best mid-major basketball players

    Bradley lands two inside the Top 40...

    Hersey Hawkins & Chet Walker


    Players from current Valley members..

    2. Larry Bird, Indiana State
    8. Walt Frazier, Southern Illinois
    19. Xavier McDaniel, Wichita State
    23. Paul Silas, Creighton
    26. Hersey Hawkins, Bradley - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...l-time/page/26
    37. Chet Walker, Bradley - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...l-time/page/15
    43. Doug Collins, Illinois State

    Jimmer comes in at #45 but I think he deserves higher...
    Obviously they are not going to list Oscar Robertson - even tho at the time Cincy was mid-major but is now Big East..
    and obviously they don't delve too hard into the 50's or 40's as they fail to mention Paul Unruh or Squeaky Melchiorre - each acknowledged as one of the best if not the best college player in their years.
    And Kurt Thomas ahead of Paul Silas, Larry Johnson, Marcus Camby, and Hersey?

    Few players in college basketball history have enjoyed the kind of popularity that Jimmer Fredette garnered last season. Fredette, however, is far from the first player to make a big splash without playing in a big-time conference...


    also a few omissions - Freeman Williams (3249 career points), Harry "Machine Gun" Kelly, Elvin Hayes (Houston), Elgin Baylor (Seattle), Calvin Murphy (Niagara), Hakeem Olajuwon (Houston), Earl "The Pearl" Monroe (Winston-Salem), Wes Unseld & Darrell Griffith of Louisville.

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    Adam Morrison on there?

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    • #3
      also a few omissions - Freeman Williams (3249 career points), Harry "Machine Gun" Kelly, Elvin Hayes (Houston), Elgin Baylor (Seattle), Calvin Murphy (Niagara), Hakeem Olajuwon (Houston), Earl "The Pearl" Monroe (Winston-Salem), Wes Unseld & Darrell Griffith of Louisville.

      Not much of a list without these guys especially when you leave off Olajuwon who could be considered the best college player ever. If you could create a team from scratch he maybe one of 5 players in all of NCAA that would make every ones list. The others on my list would be Magic, Bird, Ewing and Pistol Pete.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by SFP View Post
        also a few omissions - Freeman Williams (3249 career points), Harry "Machine Gun" Kelly, Elvin Hayes (Houston), Elgin Baylor (Seattle), Calvin Murphy (Niagara), Hakeem Olajuwon (Houston), Earl "The Pearl" Monroe (Winston-Salem), Wes Unseld & Darrell Griffith of Louisville.

        Not much of a list without these guys especially when you leave off Olajuwon who could be considered the best college player ever. If you could create a team from scratch he maybe one of 5 players in all of NCAA that would make every ones list. The others on my list would be Magic, Bird, Ewing and Pistol Pete.

        I agree with everything you've said SFP except the Olajuwon stuff. Best college player ever? I don't think so.

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        • #5
          Houston played in the Southwest Conference back in the Phi Slama Jama years. It's hard to consider a conference with the Texas Longhorns a mid major.
          1996 & 2019

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          • #6
            Found this comment on Hersey -- apparently the Il Prep Bullseye folks, Roy & Harv Schmidt, still use Hersey Hawkins as the best example of how astute they are...

            ".. since they were among the first scouts to determine that a 6-foot-2 inch
            center named Hersey Hawkins was good enough to play in college and the NBA..'



            this article makes it sound like these guy have never made a mistake...
            Last edited by tornado; 08-23-2011, 07:24 PM.

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            • #7
              Bleacher Report... I really despise that website. Everything is a slideshow.
              I can do all things through pasta, which strengthens me.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster View Post
                Bleacher Report... I really despise that website. Everything is a slideshow.
                well - as bad as "Bleacher Report" might be - guess who just partnered with them to improve their sports coverage...
                (or is this replacing the current "sports news"?)
                "GateHouse Media has contracted with the online publication
                Bleacher Report to provide sports news on our websites."
                (I guess the Peoria-based Gatehouse publication didn't want you to know this because they never mentioned it)

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                • #9
                  Don't think Bradley could be considered a mid-major back in the Walker days. Don't even think the term "mid-major" was being used back then.
                  What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                  • #10
                    Does that mean we'll have to click and view 20 different pages just to see one story like Bleacher Report does, just so they can increase their page-views and click count?

                    I already notice the rare time I read a PJS article now, it has 2 or 3 pages. Do they think we are all still using 1988 computers with dial-up connections and they don't want to overload our bandwidth?

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                    • #11
                      I don't go to the pjs site - they cram 1 million popups and cookies into your computer

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        Does that mean we'll have to click and view 20 different pages just to see one story like Bleacher Report does, just so the can increase their page-views and click count?

                        I already notice the rare time I read a PJS article now, it has 2 or 3 pages. Do they think we are all still using 1988 computers with dial-up connections and they don't want to overload our bandwidth?
                        The multi-page articles are their cheap fix to the 15 page-view-per-month limit that they have. Before it, you were able to outsmart the nitwits and get access to any article on their site as often as you wanted. Now...you only get to read half of the article .

                        Anyway, between the pop-ups, cookies, and page view limits; I've lost the last ounce of respect I had for the local rag.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ManMythLegend View Post
                          The multi-page articles are their cheap fix to the 15 page-view-per-month limit that they have. Before it, you were able to outsmart the nitwits and get access to any article on their site as often as you wanted. Now...you only get to read half of the article .

                          Anyway, between the pop-ups, cookies, and page view limits; I've lost the last ounce of respect I had for the local rag.
                          I thought it might improve when one of their so called editors left there and came to work for Bradley. Now it looks like it's starting to rub off.
                          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                          • #14
                            Anthony Parker and Danny Granger should be on here even if DG is considred a New Mexico guy!

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