NCAA "Clears" Ohio State

[tornado]

the whole issue isn't totally over...but in effect....
even tho it took 5 years to investigate USC/Reggie Bush
and two whole years to scope out UConn's cheating...
and even when they moved at light speed and nailed Bradley in just 3 months of investigating...

BUT in just a couple weeks since the Ohio State scandal broke and probably 99% of the facts haven't even been investigated yet...

BUT STILL -- the NCAA has already ruled Ohio State did nothing wrong -- they're in the clear!!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/07/ohio-state-jim-tressel-ncaa-violations-december-january/1

This is a joke -- almost as funny as Cam Newton getting off free since it was his father who was asking for payments for his son to play
NCAA hasn't changed at all -- the big boys slide every time.............

[basketball nut]

and a "HALO" flies over Columbus, OH (just like it did last year @ Alabama) and what did it cost-A coaches job who knows what tthe real payoff is to both JT and the NCAA comm.

[sousaman2089]

More evidence that the NCAA is just a big joke.

[AZ BU Fan]

NCAA Decides To Drain Some of the Swamp, Outside Ohio

Pardon me while I puke....

Ohio State must have threatened to out every other University which cheats, or, threatened to form its own collegiate sports organization with other BCS schools away from the NCAA if penalized.

Either OSU Prez and AD were aware of the scam going on and looked the other way while lying about it, or, they are so inept and clueless that they didn't know anything illegal was going on and aren't qualified to lead a program at such a prestigious university. Either way they should have been fired and the program penalized.

USC ought to think about filing a class action lawsuit vs the NCAA for being singled out for massive penalities while Auburn and OSU skate....

[sousaman2089]

My favorite thing about all these stories about cheating in college football is that Reggie Bush still has his Heisman trophy. If I were Reggie, I'd never give it back.

If I were the Heisman committee, I'd make an Ocean's 11 like group of ex-Heisman winners to break into w/e the Heisman and steal it in some awesome heist film way. Paul Hornung would mastermind the plan, Ron Dayne would be in charge of demolitions, Desmond Howard would do the more arduous physical tasks such as actually grabbing the trophy and escaping, and Jason White would go undercover since no one remembers what he looks like.

[SFP]

Let's all face the music that there are a few schools that command to be treated differently in the eyes of the NCAA and OSU's football program is one. The BCS was set up for certain schools to be able to exert control over their finances and power base. In reality the NCAA needs the BCS, not the other way around.

[saluki762]

The NCAA really erred here. That said, they are allowing something really cool as a rule exception at SIU.

http://thesouthern.com/sports/college/football/article_d768268e-b41a-11e0-a99d-001cc4c03286.html

[jrish12]

Let's all face the music that there are a few schools that command to be treated differently in the eyes of the NCAA and OSU's football program is one. The BCS was set up for certain schools to be able to exert control over their finances and power base. In reality the NCAA needs the BCS, not the other way around.

And USC isnt?! I think whatever USC got OSU should have gotten AT LEAST that.

[tornado]

There is a public opinion that USC got hammered..but let's look at that..

-1st -- their basketball program with extremely serious violations, cash payments to agents to steer players to USC and big time impermissible benefits - cash, TV's, clothes, etc -- being given to players (OJ MAYO)..
BUT -- their basketball program got off totally free -- NOT one single penalty from NCAA..beyond the trivial stuff they self-imposed.
NOT ONE single basketball coach nor ONE SINGLE basketball player was penalized in any way - not one even missed even a single start or a minute of playing time.
Recall - we all know of a certain midwest program that had far smaller inadvertent violations/impwermissible benefits that got cited with a major violation and players penalized.
BTW -- USC had given itself a couple self-imposed penalties but they were meaningless as they sub-.500 in the Pac-10 and they knew they weren't going to make the post-season anyway!

-then their football program got a 2-year post-season ban & 4 years probation...plus a fine of (get this) $5,000 - and vacation of wins --
Thus NO coach nor even ONE single player involved in these violations received even ONE tiny penalty.
USC can still fill their arena and keep the millions, and will build back to their usual level inside of those two years.
Remember -- even the NCAA themselves admitted the violations were known to have occurred as far back as at least 2004 (and probably way back further) yet they pronounced these penalties in 2010 -- a lag time of 6 years compared to the lag time of just 3 month NCAA took in hammering Bradley for miniscule issues.
...no TV penalties - no direct penalties to anyone on the team or coaching staff - and only minimal scholarship reduction and recruiting penalties.
The head and most of the assistant coaches involved are already moved on and working nice, high paying jobs elsewhere

Had this been an upstart program or a midmajor (like a SMU or a Bradley) that committed violations of this degree -- it would have been the death penalty.

In fact -- here's the 1/20/87 NCAA ruling on Tulane who were paying their players...and gambling issues..
"Institution: Tulane UniversityDate: January 20, 1987
Violation Sumary: Improper financial aid; extra benefits; improper recruiting contacts
and inducements; unethical conduct; outside fund; certification of compliance.
Penalty Summary: Public reprimand. Terminated men's basketball program; coaching staff resigned;
compliance review and audits of booster organizations; drug education and testing; gambling education."


and in 1985 -- SIU got caught giving one player $300 and NCAA hammered SIU far, far worse than USC got hammered..
"probation for a two-year period and prohibited the institution
from participating in any postseason basketball competition during the l985-86
academic year. In addition, the university was prohibited from participating
in any "live" television appearances during the l985-86 academic year and was
declared ineligible to participate in regular-season conference championship
competition or to receive conference revenue generated during the l985-86
academic year."

[tornado]

BTW -- did you know that precise studies have shown the NCAA's penalties are NOT effective?
This whole Ohio State thing is quite typical...

"Evaluating the Effectiveness of Major Infractions Penalties in NCAA Division I Athletics"
"..the impact of penalties in NCAA Athletics...how successful NCAA penalties are in placing
a significant hardship upon institutions violating the organization’s rules."
"focusing on NCAA Division I-A football and Division I men’s and women’s basketball. ..
The study proved...
"little effect of penalties on subsequent team performance for NCAA athletic programs receiving major penalties." http://www.nassm.com/files/conf_abstracts/2007_1705.pdf

[tornado]

After one soft early season game (a 42-0 clobbering of Akron) that Ohio State won easily -- they have now REINSTATED all their suspended players...
So all the players ended up getting penalized - was not playing in one cupcake game...
wow, that's real discipline -- it makes a mockery of the rules...

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/09/06/0906-ohio-state-prepares-for-toledo.html

[TheGuy]

After one soft early season game (a 42-0 clobbering of Akron) that Ohio State won easily -- they have now REINSTATED all their suspended players...
So all the players ended up getting penalized - was not playing in one cupcake game...
wow, that's real discipline -- it makes a mockery of the rules...
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/s...or-toledo.html

while true, most bigtime teams play cupcakes for their 1st game of the season regardless of violations. The problem isn't the game they played, but the penalty that was incurred in my opinion. Should have been for more than one game and the NCAA should know better especially since these games are scheduled 4-5 years in advance.

[fan]

Actually not all the suspended players have been reinstated. Only those from the latest infraction. The tattoo 5 game suspension is still has 4 games to go.

[basketballshadow]

After one soft early season game (a 42-0 clobbering of Akron) that Ohio State won easily -- they have now REINSTATED all their suspended players...
So all the players ended up getting penalized - was not playing in one cupcake game...
wow, that's real discipline -- it makes a mockery of the rules...
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/s...or-toledo.html

No they haven't. Four of the players from tattogate are still suspended. one is back because he was only suspended 1 game by the ncaa and of course pryor left. The other 3 returning players were suspended a game for some benefits they got at a charity event less than $300

[Bravesfan]

the whole issue isn't totally over...but in effect....
even tho it took 5 years to investigate USC/Reggie Bush
and two whole years to scope out UConn's cheating...
and even when they moved at light speed and nailed Bradley in just 3 months of investigating...

BUT in just a couple weeks since the Ohio State scandal broke and probably 99% of the facts haven't even been investigated yet...

BUT STILL -- the NCAA has already ruled Ohio State did nothing wrong -- they're in the clear!!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/07/ohio-state-jim-tressel-ncaa-violations-december-january/1

This is a joke -- almost as funny as Cam Newton getting off free since it was his father who was asking for payments for his son to play
NCAA hasn't changed at all -- the big boys slide every time.............

Un "bleeping" believable! That's all I have to say!