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  • #91
    Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
    I doubt they finish last (unless bad news comes), but Ford deserves the COY if BU doesn't play on Thursday.
    I completely agree with this. I said before that Geno is set up really well to get his third straight conference COY award!

    However, I don't think a 6th-place finish will be enough for that to happen. A top four finish should do it, considering our "last place team loses their best player to graduation and lose their team leader to transfer".
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • #92
      Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
      Personal attacks. Classy. Just last year wanted to have a beer with me, what gives?
      Maybe its the constant attacks on one poster for his opinions. It gets real old.

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      • #93
        Don Quixote rides agains tilting his lance at the windmills intent on detroying Bradley basketball.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
          Maybe its the constant attacks on one poster for his opinions. It gets real old.
          Attacks or just conflicting viewpoints? Open discussion gets 'old', or it only gets old if it doesn't align with someone's personal agenda? I'm not sure what gets 'old', most of my recent disagreements with those running the forum have been deleted anyways, as if they never happened.

          I didn't attack anyone in this thread. I certainly don't think they took it as an attack. I celebrated the fact that DSE is staying, thanked one poster for saving the program, and asked if there was still an iceberg dead ahead.
          Onward and Upward!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
            I doubt they finish last (unless bad news comes), but Ford deserves the COY if BU doesn't play on Thursday.
            Geno for Coach of the Year then.
            Book it!

            Even aside from who we might get that is not on our current roster, we do have some talent. Yes, I believe Wichita (at this time) has more talented players, and better perimeter shooters. But it's not to a great degree. And I'd take our bigs over theirs. They do have a really good PG who came on strong in the last half of the season, but maybe DS will come right in and run the point well. I think we have good all-around bench players in JE, WL that will show great improvement this season under a new system.
            I'd like to see who you think (your list of 10 or 11) will be better than JP next season.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
              Wichita State brings back far more talent than Bradley.
              Fair enough. I didn't mean to imply Wichita was going to horrible. I see them as a team that probably finishes ahead of Bradley, but they are losing quite a bit of talent.

              Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
              JP averaged 5 and 5, but the potential is there. That being said, I can count 10 or 11 forwards or centers that I would take over Prosser next season.
              10 or 11 Centers in the Valley? Don't get me wrong, Prosser is not the best Center in the Valley, but no way he is not in the top 5 centers of the Valley.

              Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
              I also find it funny that everyone is embracing a coach who uses a system that, according to you, "post players aren't as important."
              Post players are most important in half court offenses. When you run, they still help quite a bit to have, but are not as important as they in half court offenses. Also we're embracing the coach because he is our coach. We support him because he is here. I would support any coach at Bradley because I want to see this program succeed.

              Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
              No one in that lineup is a good perimeter shooter, and DSE flourished this yaer when he was moved off the point position. IF DSE doesn't start point then that leaves DS. I don't see a DS led team finishing in the top half.
              DSE can shoot, he's not great, but he's not horrible. TB shoots a lot better from 3 then people seem to think. Again, not a star, but not horrible. You are right though, we don't have a star shooter like a Warren or Maniscalco for next season.

              Originally posted by 45otseoj View Post
              I doubt they finish last (unless bad news comes), but Ford deserves the COY if BU doesn't play on Thursday.
              Believe what you will. I'm not going to try and change your opinion, but I do honestly believe, the worst this team SHOULD finish is 6th. I've heard Drake we'll be better, but I don't see it. Evansville had a good season for them last season, and I don't expect them to horrible, but I think Bradley can finish ahead of them. Illinois State and Southern Illinois are both very beatable teams, and I can't see either of them finishing higher then 7th next season. I'm optimistic that this team could be very good next year, and will at least be able to finish in the middle of the valley.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Chibearsfan10125 View Post
                Believe what you will. I'm not going to try and change your opinion, but I do honestly believe, the worst this team SHOULD finish is 6th. I've heard Drake we'll be better, but I don't see it. Evansville had a good season for them last season, and I don't expect them to horrible, but I think Bradley can finish ahead of them. Illinois State and Southern Illinois are both very beatable teams, and I can't see either of them finishing higher then 7th next season. I'm optimistic that this team could be very good next year, and will at least be able to finish in the middle of the valley.
                I dont' see Missouri St. finishing ahead of BU either. I definitely see middle of the Valley (4-6), anything less would be due to injury or disciplinary issues, anything better is possible.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                  I agree with everything you said, except the very last part. He looked into options, he did not plan to leave. Opening up options, and being set to leave are different things, IMO.
                  Dyricus would definitely disagree with you.

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                  • #99
                    More like, ice cube dead ahead...

                    BU's program might suffer for a year or two in the transition, but it can't get much worse than last year's performance. GF has proven at KSU he can put together a winning team on the fly, give him a chance. Keeping DSE on board certainly eases the burden to win next year.

                    JL had a great run for a few years and got a fair chance to succeed in 9 seasons which is longer than most average coaching tenures. I found an article from the beginning of this past season on a NY Times Blog (http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/201...#more-28129) :
                    "Coaching Tenure Update
                    ...Entering the new season, the average tenure for head coaches with their current teams in the six major conferences was 5.58 years, with a median of 4 years. Of the 73 coaches in those leagues, 12 have been leading their teams for 10 years or more. All three statistics are slight increases from last season. Here is how the six major conferences break down:

                    A.C.C.: An average tenure of 7.83 years with a median of 6.5 and 3 coaches with 10 or more years
                    Big East: 7.06 average, 3.5 median, 3 of 10 years or more
                    Big Ten: 6.09 average, 6 median, 2 of 10 years or more
                    SEC: 4.67 average, 2.5 median, 3 of 10 years or more
                    Big 12: 4.08 average, 3.5 median, 1 of 10 years or more
                    Pac-10: 2.8 average, 2 median, none of 10 years or more
                    ...
                    Northeast: 6.25 average, 2 median, 3 of 10 years or more
                    Patriot: 6.13 average, 4.5 median, 3 of 10 years or more
                    Atlantic 10: 4.86 average, 4 median, 1 of 10 years or more
                    Colonial: 4.83 average, 4 median, 1 of 10 years or more
                    America East: 4.22 average, 5 median, 0 of 10 years or more
                    Metro Atlantic: 4.1 average, 4 median, 1 of 10 years or more
                    Ivy: 2.5 average, 1.5 median, 1 of 10 years or more"

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                    I'm sure the coaches with more than 10 years experience didn't have a continual downward trend for 4 years to an eventual last place finish in their 9th season. I liked JL, I respect and appreciate everything he did improve the program, but it was time to move on. There will be some hiccups in this transition, but it is not an iceberg...its an ice cube...

                    And once again, I'm glad DSE is staying on the Hilltop!

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                    • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      Dyricus would definitely disagree with you.
                      He would disagree that opening up options is not the same as planning to leave?

                      I think I will stick with my view of it.

                      Bottom line:

                      I guess if he wanted to leave, he would have.

                      I give credit to DSE and Coach Ford. I am glad to have DSE stay a part of the program.


                      I know some thought the program would implode without Jim, but personally, I think Coach Ford deserves credit for coming in and starting to turn this program around.
                      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                      • Thank God Geno Ford was able to get DSE to stay! At least he saw the light and didn't overreact like a lot of people around here did.

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                        • Originally posted by Chico View Post
                          Guess I just took them differently. I took it as some fans being concerned with the program. Hope everyone is ok now with the new hire, I am. Just don't think we need to be stirring the pot by asking where the naysayers are.
                          I agree with Chico! Let's move on guys. Things will fall into place one way ot the other and we'll have ample time to point fingers.
                          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                          • Originally posted by Chico View Post
                            ...don't think we need to be stirring the pot by asking where the naysayers are.
                            I thought someone already had that job...

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                            • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              I thought someone already had that job...
                              Being nay-sayers or pot-stirrers?
                              When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                              • Originally posted by SFP View Post
                                I agree with Chico! Let's move on guys.
                                I agree. I think some just cannot do that. That's okay though. Hopefully Coach Ford will continue building a solid foundation to rebuild BU's bball program.
                                When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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