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    Duke got hammered last night 93-77 by Arizona - similar, yet even a worse whupping, to the 2009 blowout at the hands of Villanova in the Sweet Sixteen...

    The only good thing for Dookies, is that it was on so late that a lot of people on the east coast had already fallen asleep and are just now finding out the crushing results...

    Arizona's MoMo Jones dismantled the Blue Devils with 32 points and 13 rebounds...

    Kyrie Irving scored 28 points, BUT -- he took more shots than anyone else, and had only 3 assists....
    so...did he help Duke??? This is the worst blowout loss they've had all season...or would they have lost by 40 without Irving???

    Duke has been to only one Elite Eight in the last seven years...time to fire the coach??
    Now the east coast press is whining how unfair it was that #1 seed Duke was forced to travel to Anaheim to play! (UConn people never whined!)


    In other action -- Jimmer carried his team as far as he could, but BYU lost in OT to Florida
    SDSU played well but lost to UConn, and Butler embarrassed Wisconsin - holding them to just 54 points (on 3-18 in 2nd half from 3pt) -- way under their team averages....and with all those BIG guys, Wisconsin was still badly outrebounded.

  • #2
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    Duke got hammered last night 93-77 by Arizona - similar, yet even a worse whupping, to the 2009 blowout at the hands of Villanova in the Sweet Sixteen...

    The only good thing for Dookies, is that it was on so late that a lot of people on the east coast had already fallen asleep and are just now finding out the crushing results...

    Arizona's MoMo Jones dismantled the Blue Devils with 32 points and 13 rebounds...

    Kyrie Irving scored 28 points, BUT -- he took more shots than anyone else, and had only 3 assists....
    so...did he help Duke??? This is the worst blowout loss they've had all season...or would they have lost by 40 without Irving???

    Duke has been to only one Elite Eight in the last seven years...time to fire the coach??
    Now the east coast press is whining how unfair it was that #1 seed Duke was forced to travel to Anaheim to play! (UConn people never whined!)


    In other action -- Jimmer carried his team as far as he could, but BYU lost in OT to Florida
    SDSU played well but lost to UConn, and Butler embarrassed Wisconsin - holding them to just 54 points (on 3-18 in 2nd half from 3pt) -- way under their team averages....and with all those BIG guys, Wisconsin was still badly outrebounded.


    Duke looked like a totally different team in the second half...

    And you are letting your bias show T in regards to Jimmer and Irving

    Irving was 9-15 and 2-4 from 3, 8-9 from the line with 3 assists and 1 turnover...

    Jimmer was 11-29 and 3-15 from 3, 5 assists and 6 turnovers....

    So yeah...Irving helped Duke alot....I'm not sure Jimmer did though...at least if you are comparing stats...

    i know you like Jimmer but these stat lines aren't even close from last nights game

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    • #3
      Kyrie was the only player on the floor for Duke who seemed to be aware there was a game going on. Everyone else was just awful for Duke.

      Derrick Williams made himself some money last night.

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      • #4
        Williams was a man among boys in that game. I agree that he probably solidified the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft. He looked a lot like Blake Griffin last night.

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        • #5
          Arizona beat Duke because they were so much better inside, as far as Duke having to play out West I say too bad because most of the time they get games in their back yard which is not fair to the rest of the teams, a lot of prognosticators said Duke could have problems against anyone that is athletic and has a physical inside game.
          The other thing I would point that I also heard is that teams that have great guard play but very little inside play may get to the sweet 16 but will not advance further unless they have good inside players because they will get pounded on the boards.

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          • #6
            Irving has an entire team of 5-Star blue chippers on the court with him -- all he needs to do is pass the ball and Duke will score...

            Jimmer enjoys no such luxury -- he carried his entire team on his back...and lost a heartbreaker in OT --
            Jimmer was 11-29, but his entire team shot very poorly and was 14-42 without Jimmer.......so he had little choice but to try to do it himself...

            Kyrie was 9-15 -- but the starting SG plus the two low post starters -- three guys who might be expected to score if he delivers the assists,
            went a combined 5-10, ONLY 10 shot attempts from 3 of the starters combined -- and only THREE 3pt attempt from Curry & Dawkins combined who BOTH average 43% from 3pt range!
            Irving's teammates didn't shoot poorly at all -- but they never touched the ball enough to get many shots....Irving needed to get them more involved if they are shooting 50% from the floor!!!
            In the end Duke gets blown out and the guy who killed them the most was MoMo -- so whose job was it to stop the guy -- Irving is the biggest, most athletic starting guard out there for Duke??

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              Irving has an entire team of 5-Star blue chippers on the court with him -- all he needs to do is pass the ball and Duke will score...

              Jimmer enjoys no such luxury -- he carried his entire team on his back...and lost a heartbreaker in OT --
              Jimmer was 11-29, but his entire team shot very poorly and was 14-42 without Jimmer.......so he had little choice but to try to do it himself...

              Kyrie was 9-15 -- but the starting SG plus the two low post starters -- three guys who might be expected to score if he delivers the assists,
              went a combined 5-10, ONLY 10 shot attempts from 3 of the starters combined -- and only THREE 3pt attempt from Curry & Dawkins combined who BOTH average 43% from 3pt range!
              Irving's teammates didn't shoot poorly at all -- but they never touched the ball enough to get many shots....Irving needed to get them more involved if they are shooting 50% from the floor!!!
              In the end Duke gets blown out and the guy who killed them the most was MoMo -- so whose job was it to stop the guy -- Irving is the biggest, most athletic starting guard out there for Duke??

              you are funny T....Kyrie shoots 60% and you blame him?..the rest of the team shoots 43%...you are right Irving should take a seat..

              On the other hand what I saw in Jimmer last night was a guy who though some passes that had nothing to do with his own players..as it seemed that he thought a couple of AZ players were his teammtes....Jimmer displayed some poor judgement last night...

              I like Jimmer and really hadn't watched much of him until this year...he's a great player who seem to struggle last night which could have due to the injury for sure but he still struggled.

              Kyrie is a great player too....

              In any event Kyrie had a great game and Jimmer didn't....you can admit it T...it won't hurt....other than a couple of Singler hustle plays Duke took the second half off.....

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              • #8
                First off, Nolan Smith is the point guard responsible for distribution, not Kyrie. So blame Nolan and his 6 TOs before Kyrie and his 1 TO.

                And the number of shots taken is a legit point until you realize two of the three players you pointed out played 9 and 13 minutes. Tough to get off shots when Coach K pulls you off the court.

                IMO, Kyrie's teammates was more of a no-show than Jimmer's teammates, even.

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                • #9
                  I don't blame anyone -- I cite NOTHING but facts and say his production helped them very little.....in fact about as much as Danny Granger's 38 points helped when BU lost by plenty at Indiana State...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    I don't blame anyone -- I cite NOTHING but facts and say his production helped them very little.....in fact about as much as Danny Granger's 38 points helped when BU lost by plenty at Indiana State...
                    My mistake T....I took the fact you said Kyrie should have passed more often.....'all he needs to do is pass the ball and Duke will score'
                    "three guys who might be expected to score if he delivers the assists"
                    "Irving needed to get them more involved if they are shooting 50% from the floor!!!"

                    3 quotes on passing the ball....looks like blame to me....

                    I stated facts as well...Irving shoots 60% and the rest shoot 43%...I don't know but the 60% seems better to me....you know I like giving you a hard time T....but you can admit being biased against Duke or Irving....seriously it won't hurt.

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                    • #11
                      I know and I give you a hard time...but I was just trying to spark a debate whether Irving helped Duke or not...

                      Duke was 8-0 with Irving in the lineup in 2010
                      but they are 2-1 in 2011.....


                      This opinion is a veiled way of saying the blame is that Duke has too many slow, white guys....
                      Find all the latest college basketball news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.


                      also -- some potential bad news coming out soon about Irving...
                      Last edited by tornado; 03-25-2011, 01:15 PM.

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                      • #12
                        28 points on 15 shots???? Hard to be any more efficient than that. How efficient was the rest of the team? Seems to me Duke would have fared better if Irving had 0 assists...

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                        • #13
                          In a perfect world:

                          Kanses loses
                          VCU wins
                          Butler takes the cake

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                          • #14
                            Actually, I have Arizona going to the final 4 in my bracket...so I was pleased with the outcome last night!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              Arizona's MoMo Jones dismantled the Blue Devils with 32 points and 13 rebounds...
                              In the end Duke gets blown out and the guy who killed them the most was MoMo -- so whose job was it to stop the guy -- Irving is the biggest, most athletic starting guard out there for Duke??
                              I think you are confusing MoMo Jones and Derrick Williams.

                              Derrick Williams had 32 points and 13 boards.

                              MoMo Jones had a good game too, as he chipped in with 16 points.

                              Duke didn't really get blown out by the guy Irving was guarding (MoMo Jones).(Irving's 28 points to MoMo Jones's 16. )

                              IMO It was Derrick Williams that killed Duke.

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