Truth about Jeter?

[shaunguth]

Why do people keep coming here if they do not like the way the site is run?

I agree. I think they should go to another board and mention this place in every single thread.

[Buesch N Chips]

I agree. I think they should go to another board and mention this place in every single thread.

"The greatest thermometer of success is the jealousy of the malcontents."

[Da Coach]

Sounds like Jeter didn't want leave. he was just stroking his ego. let's keep in mind no one knows for sure if was offered the job. so no one knows if anyone at the school was responsible for any debacles associated with it.

I wrote a letter to the trustee chairman in support of the JL decision and got a respnse back. They need to know just as many (if not more) support the decision than don't.

Though a lot of stuff may never get released publically, I can say that some pretty high-up sources that have a track record of being 100% accurate tell me Jeter was offered the Bradley job and declined. But there will always be some who choose to believe otherwise, or believe only what the publicists put out.

And the administration did try to gauge the sentiment of the fans and donors, and what they found out was that the huge majority supported giving Jim Les another year. Again, there will be those who choose not to believe that, but I suggest they contact anyone at Bradley- it's open knowledge.

[afan]

So was the earlier thread that had a conflicting story about Jeter deleted because it was found to be bs?

I don't understand the big interest in Jeter. His record is no great improvement over JL.

[TheGuy]

I don't understand the big interest in Jeter. His record is no great improvement over JL.

Doesn't that make you want to question the administrations ability at qualifying candidates for this great position/opportunity.

Jeter....geez.....is Pat Knight still available........

[BUBraves2006]

And the administration did try to gauge the sentiment of the fans and donors, and what they found out was that the huge majority supported giving Jim Les another year. Again, there will be those who choose not to believe that, but I suggest they contact anyone at Bradley- it's open knowledge.

Count me in the crew that chooses not to believe that, at least in how you state it.

What's the statistical breakdown of that? Who was asked? I mean, unless there's some data out there, how can you claim that there was a "huge majority"?

I won't argue with ya that maybe it was a majority - I surely don't know as I wasn't one of the scientific surveys conducted by the administration. But maybe it isn't a majority???

Unless of course some donors count for like 18 votes because they are louder, more vocal and are more important (aka $$$) than others.

[tornado]

uh...yes -- it was a huge majority but someone decided to forge ahead anyway and here we are.....

[amettrick]

uh...yes -- it was a huge majority but someone decided to forge ahead anyway and here we are.....

It might have been a majority of the donors, but it certainly wasn't a majority of the fans in general. Of the 50 or so people who I consider friends and are also BU basketball fans, I only know of 5 who thought JL should have been given another year. But of course, none of us contribute big money to the program, so our opinions aren't counted in your survey.

Of course the donors wanted JL back. He was their buddy, their pal. He made them feel important and in the know. They were connected. Now they're all angry because there is no guarantee the new coach will be so buddy-buddy with them.

[Da Coach]

It might have been a majority of the donors, but it certainly wasn't a majority of the fans in general. Of the 50 or so people who I consider friends and are also BU basketball fans, I only know of 5 who thought JL should have been given another year. But of course, none of us contribute big money to the program, so our opinions aren't counted in your survey.

Of course the donors wanted JL back. He was their buddy, their pal. He made them feel important and in the know. They were connected. Now they're all angry because there is no guarantee the new coach will be so buddy-buddy with them.

ammetrick, you are entitled to your opinion about Coach Les, but you are not entitled to demean and insult an entire class of fans. The donors that I know are loyal to Bradley, and are as knowledgeable and informed as any group of fans. They supported giving Jim Les another year, because he has shown that he can be successful, and it is rather shallow thinking to say that the performance last year was not significantly affescted by the injuries. The players respected him, as did anyone who knew him, and they played hard for him. He is honest and abided by the rules, when it would have been easy to stretch them a little, especially since he knew his job was in jeopardy.

Oh, and this might disappoint you- It is almost certain that whoever the new coach is, they will make every effort to become buddy-buddy with those same donors.

[amettrick]

DC, I apologize that my comments were somewhat rude. I wasn't meaning to single out all donors. That wasn't my intention as I know many are great fans who just want a successful program like I do.

What I meant was that there are a small segment who seem to be upset not because Bradley fired it's coach, but because that coach was their friend. I believe that if they didn't count JL as a friend, their perception of his performance would be different.

I also believe that the constant claims that "the majority" of fans wanted to bring JL back for another year simply aren't true. The majority of the donors may have wanted him back, but the donors are only a small part of the fanbase as a whole.

[BUBraves2006]

Hm, I guess because we have a couple of anonymous posters saying that it's a vast majority, I guess we all must take it as gospel.

Similar to what ammetrick said - if you want to say the vast majority of donors wanted him to stay, I can't refute that - I'm sure I'll probably never have the money or connections to either become a major donor or even meet any of these people.

But I simply won't believe the vast majority of all fans wanted status quo. Obviously you can't poll everyone, but if you look at some of the best, most passionate fans of BU hoops that post on here, it definitely wasn't a "vast majority" on the pro side.

You have the right to be mad forever t, but I think you (and the others on here who are on your side) are lumping your own hard feelings in with the masses and trying to make it a collective representation of the whole.

Just my opinion, I know you will disagree ... but I really think that's all we can take your comments as well - "opinion" - unless I see some kind of quantitative survey.

[Da Coach]

Hm, I guess because we have a couple of anonymous posters saying that it's a vast majority, I guess we all must take it as gospel.

Believe whatever you want. Don't take anyone's word here...But instead of just denying whatever you don't want to hear, maybe you could try doing what I did.....call the Bradley athletic department and ask.
I did that. I talked to high level person in the athletic department and asked them what kind of support there was for retaining vs. firing Coach Les. It turns out the upper donors were all consulted, and the person I talked to was one of those who did that work.
I was told it was more than 95% in favor of retaining Coach Les.
But I do not want anyone taking my word for it. Call and ask yourself.

And we are not all anonymous. I suspect nearly everyone here knows who I am, including the people at Bradley. So those that know me know I am not making this stuff up.

[amckillip]

DC, I apologize that my comments were somewhat rude. I wasn't meaning to single out all donors. That wasn't my intention as I know many are great fans who just want a successful program like I do.

What I meant was that there are a small segment who seem to be upset not because Bradley fired it's coach, but because that coach was their friend. I believe that if they didn't count JL as a friend, their perception of his performance would be different.

I also believe that the constant claims that "the majority" of fans wanted to bring JL back for another year simply aren't true. The majority of the donors may have wanted him back, but the donors are only a small part of the fanbase as a whole.

Hm, I guess because we have a couple of anonymous posters saying that it's a vast majority, I guess we all must take it as gospel.

Similar to what ammetrick said - if you want to say the vast majority of donors wanted him to stay, I can't refute that - I'm sure I'll probably never have the money or connections to either become a major donor or even meet any of these people.

But I simply won't believe the vast majority of all fans wanted status quo. Obviously you can't poll everyone, but if you look at some of the best, most passionate fans of BU hoops that post on here, it definitely wasn't a "vast majority" on the pro side.

You have the right to be mad forever t, but I think you (and the others on here who are on your side) are lumping your own hard feelings in with the masses and trying to make it a collective representation of the whole.

Just my opinion, I know you will disagree ... but I really think that's all we can take your comments as well - "opinion" - unless I see some kind of quantitative survey.

Of my group of friends NO ONE considers JL a friend, I can count the number of times I have met DC and T combined on one hand, and don't think my level of donating would be considered major by many, and 1 of about 2 dozen of my friends thought JL should be let go -I can also assure you no ones feelings were hurt. I work in a very large office and the vast majority did not think JL should be let go considering what we had coming back and in. Also, everyone I talk to thinks the coaching hire process is getting ridiculous and is being mismanaged. Today someone made the comment that at this point they just need to go after someone they know they can get, because the longer this goes on, the lower that target will be...

[amettrick]

Believe whatever you want. Don't take anyone's word here...But instead of just denying whatever you don't want to hear, maybe you could try doing what I did.....call the Bradley athletic department and ask.
I did that. I talked to high level person in the athletic department and asked them what kind of support there was for retaining vs. firing Coach Les. It turns out the upper donors were all consulted, and the person I talked to was one of those who did that work.
I was told it was more than 95% in favor of retaining Coach Les.
But I do not want anyone taking my word for it. Call and ask yourself.

And we are not all anonymous. I suspect nearly everyone here knows who I am, including the people at Bradley. So those that know me know I am not making this stuff up.

I'm not refuting this claim at all, but you say it clearly in your post that this is 95% of the "upper donors."

I am simply saying that the viewpoint of the upper donors does not reflect that of the fanbase as a whole.

[mrcoachdude]

I'm not refuting this claim at all, but you say it clearly in your post that this is 95% of the "upper donors."

I am simply saying that the viewpoint of the upper donors does not reflect that of the fanbase as a whole.

I know many BU fans and I would say that 95% of the ones I know were good for one more year...but they also were not irrate at the firing...so its much like the boards...a few extremes either way and many who are good, just being a normal fan and rooting for who is here...