DSE seeks release

[shaunguth]

What I find more curious is that people are actually surprised that kids are considering transferring.

What I find curious is that people say things like "quitter", "traitor", "break a leg....literally", and "maybe he can get another coach fired" when a kid does decide to transfer.

[shaunguth]

Can't blame DSE for keeping his options open and looking out for himself.

Sure you can....and some will. How dare these kids look out for themselves when they still owe us their time.

[BradleyBrave]

You're right, the guy isn't dumb, but the potential is there. With the 2 injured players probably returning next season, along with a very good recruiting class whoever would fire the coach knowing there would be player issues makes me wonder.

I think the problem is that was the mantra too many times. Sooner or later you just gotta do it.

I didn't see a ton of potential in losses to EIU, WCU, Drake, ISU twice, Evansville, Wichita 3 uncompetitive times. Were we going to overhaul the roster or something? Were 2 guys really going to take us 'worst to first'? When over the course of 9 seasons did any team of new parts gel in one season (next year there were a minimum of 4, likely 5 or 6 newcomers)? Even a large majority of the Sweet 16 team was together for a year and a half before they 'got it'.

Maybe the overhauled roster and two injured players were going to take us 'worst to first'. I don't know. I've been wrong before.

[shaunguth]

You're right, the guy isn't dumb, but the potential is there. With the 2 injured players probably returning next season, along with a very good recruiting class whoever would fire the coach knowing there would be player issues makes me wonder.

Right....and was it his call to try and be "classy" by holding the news of JL's firing until the Monday after the tournament ended? That was a GREAT move!

[BradleyBrave]

What I find curious is that people say things like "quitter", "traitor", "break a leg....literally", and "maybe he can get another coach fired" when a kid does decide to transfer.

I said the 'get another coach fired' comment. I didn't say the others.

It would be funny if Weber got canned. Unlikely though.

[Da Coach]

Come on, we all know this is just Dave Reynolds using scare tactics...

[BradleyBrave]

Come on, we all know this is just Dave Reynolds using scare tactics...

He's working for the agenda-driven rag, of course he is!

[bu fan 9]

Why did they only print DSE asking for his release? Why not the others?

[Art Haines is God]

wasn't my idea...and BTW -- I think you might be a little wrong...

When Greg McDermott was hired at Creighton - how many players asked out?
When Cuonzo Martin was hired at MSU - how many players asked out?
When Porter Moser was fired - how many players asked out?
When Keno left or when Royce left, or even when McKenna or Turgeon, or Merf, or when Jake took over for McD....how many players asked out??


The truth is you are WRONG -- most midmajor kids DO not leave -- most don't have the talent, prowess, or whatever you want to call it to expect they get any more playing time anywhere else......
With as many coaching changes as there's been in the past few years in the Valley -- I really can't think of ONE where someone asked out before the next coach was hired...
Not P'Allen -- he was dismissed, not OE -- he considered it but stayed....
So you are wrong -- in the Valley it is a strikingly unusual phenomenon already happening twice in the two weeks since JLJ was fired.


and Veve get off your high horse..I want the best coach and want to win more than you or anyone else...and I prove it with my loyalty and support...........nice try -- but you'll have to look elsewhere for someone to blame...

Prior to Martin being hired at MSU, the players were told they would not be granted releases until the coach was hired, and the release would be Martin's to give. Martin met with each player and gave them a certain amount of time to come back and ask for a release. I believe two players asked for and were granted releases. There were four seniors, and three (rumored 4th Juco hadn't signed) incoming recruits in which only one committed with the team following Martin's hire (Rhine).

As a fan who has gone through this I wouldn't worry too much. It is tough letting some of the kids you've grown to like go, but it is better to give the coach the schollies to go after his kind of guys.

If Brown can play and he stays, and say Simms Edwards changes his mind with the hire, then your probably a few JUCOs and couple of lucky breaks from doing some good stuff again.

My 2 cents, hire Mark Montgomery of Michigan State. Young guy who has paid his dues at the big school, he's battle tested has learned under the best, and has recruiting ties near your school. I think Bradley is focusing too much on names they know and guys with head coaching experience.

[amettrick]

To me, this sounds like DSE is just annoyed that we don't yet have a coach. He wants to know what direction BU is headed so he can decide what he wants to do.

[ancona flash]

We just need to hire a coach. Plain and simple. Once this gets done, there will be a much more stable outlook to this program. I'm surprised SM left before we hired someone, but considering his relationship with JL and the grad program at U of I, I can see why he did. But DSE? Get a coach hired, and then we'll see.

If this goes another week, I'm going to really start doubting our admin's ability to make this decision a good decision.

[BradleyBrave]

To me, this sounds like DSE is just annoyed that we don't yet have a coach. He wants to know what direction BU is headed so he can decide what he wants to do.

He might as well be speaking for a lot of us fans too. It's time to get this done.

[BradleyJD]

He might as well be speaking for a lot of us fans too. It's time to get this done.

While I would like to have a coach announced, I do not want them rushing into something they are not sure of.

[bu fan 9]

He is not the only asking for there release.

[Da Coach]

To me, this sounds like DSE is just annoyed that we don't yet have a coach. He wants to know what direction BU is headed so he can decide what he wants to do.

I don't believe this is exactly true. I know DSE loves Bradley and would like to stay, but he, like all the players, are not being told anything, and are being kept hanging. Kind of like when you are "on-hold" for 30 minutes, and you don't know whether you should just hang up and try something else, or waste more time staying on hold.
The longer things drag out, the less time these players will have to make a decision for their own futures, and you can't blame them for wanting to keep options open. Dyricus is a tremendous kid, and he would be a huge loss for Bradley. I just hope the right people know this, and do the right things.