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  • Too early on Jeter IMO

    Just starting this off..

    May be him...

    May not be him...

    If it is great...

    If its not..doesnt mean the administration screwed it up..doesnt mean they didn't screw it up either...

    I, at least, dont know everything....

    Im wondering if he is using us as leverage for more money..

    The people I know in Milwaukee say this is a much better job, and he has two guys that are coming in that can help us.

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    Like I said in another thread. I wouldn't mind this hire in another scenario, not a huge fan now. My thoughts on this hire are 'meh'.

    Kind of a safe, minimal splash, hire.

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    • #3
      If offered the Bradley job- Jeter has several things to consider-
      Bradley is a better job, and will pay more. Is that worth moving for? Would UW-M be willing to up their pay to keep him?
      Does he want to leave Wisconsin, where he has always coached?
      How does this move affect his chances of getting the Wisconsin job if and when Bo Ryan leaves?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        If offered the Bradley job- Jeter has several things to consider-
        Bradley is a better job, and will pay more. Is that worth moving for? Would UW-M be willing to up their pay to keep him?
        Does he want to leave Wisconsin, where he has always coached?
        How does this move affect his chances of getting the Wisconsin job if and when Bo Ryan leaves?
        Im not really sure it does make more money da coach...

        He was at 411k in 2009 according to this thread (another usatoday article had him at 400 in 2007, so it seems accurate)



        Is BU really going to top that by much..Can't imagine them heading over the amount they were paying previously unless its a spectacular hire.

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        • #5
          The Bradley offer would be more than he is making at UW-M. Otherwise, he would have closed the door already.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            How does this move affect his chances of getting the Wisconsin job if and when Bo Ryan leaves?
            I have talked to a couple of friends of mine who are Wisconsin grads with one friend being a booster. Their thoughts about this is that Bo Ryan is currently 63 years old and is in good health. They believe that Ryan has around 12 more years of coaching left in him. Their feelings about Ryan are eerily similar to what Penn State fans feel about Joe Paterno. So based on that, I feel that we should not worry about Jeter leaving early for Wisconsin. If for some reason Ryan retires in say 4-5 years and Jeter has a good run here, then Jeter leaving for Wisconsin would be a good thing for the Bradley program. imho Oh btw, I asked who they would rather have between Jeter and Gard for a head coach, and they both stated without a doubt... Jeter
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #7
              I was not referring to how Bradley fans should react to Jeter's chances of succeeding Ryan. I was referring to how a move to Bradley might affect Jeter's situation. I suspect he has talked to Ryan about this. If he makes a move now and isn't successful for several years, then Ryan retires, Jeter would not be as likely to be their top pick. He would surely consider whether staying at UW-M might be an advantage if he is interested in the UW job.

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              • #8
                Hard to see where he's a BETTER choice than what we had...please - someone show me some evidence, I'd like to know what you have..
                Does he have Chicago connections?

                The ONLY Chicago kids he has ever landed - he nabbed out of Simeon and they were both serious troublemakers (Flowers, Johnson) and were dismissed -- not to mention they were caught up in the cheating scandal that involved Derrick Rose and cost Memphis 30 games forfeited.
                Since then he's done worse getting talent out of Chicago than 9 of 10 Valley schools -- including BU.

                He has averaged 16 losses every season for the past five years...and it's been against a set of opponents weaker than BU faces...
                I thought even when BU was winning 21 & 22 games four years in a row -- the BIG knock from his detractors was that he also lost double digits...

                BTW -- can anyone tell me how many post-season appearances UW-M has had in the past five years and how many wins? (Ans: one and none)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  The Bradley offer would be more than he is making at UW-M. Otherwise, he would have closed the door already.
                  Potentially Disagree sir...

                  It gives him potential leverage at UWM too...

                  Im not saying he will or will not go.

                  But please look at P-D coverage of Mike Anderson to see how easy it is to use school A to get a raise from school B

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    Hard to see where he's a BETTER choice than what we had...please - someone show me some evidence, I'd like to know what you have..
                    Does he have Chicago connections?

                    The ONLY Chicago kids he has ever landed - he nabbed out of Simeon and they were both serious troublemakers (Flowers, Johnson) and were dismissed -- not to mention they were caught up in the cheating scandal that involved Derrick Rose and cost Memphis 30 games forfeited.
                    Since then he's done worse getting talent out of Chicago than 9 of 10 Valley schools -- including BU.

                    He has averaged 16 losses every season for the past five years...and it's been against a set of opponents weaker than BU faces...
                    I thought even when BU was winning 21 & 22 games four years in a row -- the BIG knock from his detractors was that he also lost double digits...

                    BTW -- can anyone tell me how many post-season appearances UW-M has had in the past five years and how many wins? (Ans: one and none)
                    So you arent in favor of this pick T?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      Hard to see where he's a BETTER choice than what we had...please - someone show me some evidence, I'd like to know what you have..
                      Does he have Chicago connections?

                      The ONLY Chicago kids he has ever landed - he nabbed out of Simeon and they were both serious troublemakers (Flowers, Johnson) and were dismissed -- not to mention they were caught up in the cheating scandal that involved Derrick Rose and cost Memphis 30 games forfeited.
                      Since then he's done worse getting talent out of Chicago than 9 of 10 Valley schools -- including BU.

                      He has averaged 16 losses every season for the past five years...and it's been against a set of opponents weaker than BU faces...
                      I thought even when BU was winning 21 & 22 games four years in a row -- the BIG knock from his detractors was that he also lost double digits...

                      BTW -- can anyone tell me how many post-season appearances UW-M has had in the past five years and how many wins? (Ans: one and none)
                      Jeter was Bo Ryan's lead recruiter for around 10 years. The man certainly has recruiting connections.

                      Originally posted by srw View Post
                      Potentially Disagree sir...

                      It gives him potential leverage at UWM too...

                      Im not saying he will or will not go.

                      But please look at P-D coverage of Mike Anderson to see how easy it is to use school A to get a raise from school B
                      Agree about potential leverage issue...
                      Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                      ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by srw View Post
                        So you arent in favor of this pick T?
                        have not decided -- just asking for more one way or the other...

                        I thought we were gonna "hit it out of the park" and with the huge field of interested candidates we were getting -- we were going to get a guy who is a proven winner that'll take us to the next level...
                        I say break the bank and get Shaka or the top Butler assistant

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          Hard to see where he's a BETTER choice than what we had...please - someone show me some evidence, I'd like to know what you have..
                          Does he have Chicago connections?

                          The ONLY Chicago kids he has ever landed - he nabbed out of Simeon and they were both serious troublemakers (Flowers, Johnson) and were dismissed -- not to mention they were caught up in the cheating scandal that involved Derrick Rose and cost Memphis 30 games forfeited.
                          Since then he's done worse getting talent out of Chicago than 9 of 10 Valley schools -- including BU.

                          He has averaged 16 losses every season for the past five years...and it's been against a set of opponents weaker than BU faces...
                          I thought even when BU was winning 21 & 22 games four years in a row -- the BIG knock from his detractors was that he also lost double digits...

                          BTW -- can anyone tell me how many post-season appearances UW-M has had in the past five years and how many wins? (Ans: one and none)
                          Does this mean you will be canceling your season tickets? Clearly we are doomed if it's this poor soul leading us.
                          Onward and Upward!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            I say break the bank and get Shaka
                            Now that would be hitting it out of the park! No question!
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              have not decided -- just asking for more one way or the other...

                              I thought we were gonna "hit it out of the park" and with the huge field of interested candidates we were getting -- we were going to get a guy who is a proven winner that'll take us to the next level...
                              This is what I'm saying. I don't mind Jeter, but why fire JL to get to him. If this is the hire we make, I'm not going to kick and scream, but it would be very hard to argue that firing JL was based on on-the-court performance...

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