Look at what butler and vcu are doing right now. They went with young guys that didnt have much experience and they are what we want. Why not take the hand that is feeding illinois with talent and bring it here. We may not get the big time guy but we may get the guys jim couldnt get. WINNING WILL CHANGE PEOPLE NOT WHY WE DIDNT BUY IN!!!!!!!!!!! PASSION for the game and wanting to win takes you a long way.
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You are on a little bit of a Jerrance Howard-high right now.
I would see JH as a 2nd tier choice- he has never coached a team before, and has only been an assistant for 4 seasons, doing almost exclusively recruiting and contacts. I think he'll be a good coach someday, but there is no assurance he will be a winner right away.
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Originally posted by wantawinner View Postyoung guys with no street credit are doing it right now thats what i am saying. This is a start cant be worse then 10th place in the valley. If your guys have to buy in then we arent pushing them or finding the fire inside and thats what these young guys have and the players love it.
"young guys with no street credit..."
sheesh
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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostYou are on a little bit of a Jerrance Howard-high right now.
I would see JH as a 2nd tier choice- he has never coached a team before, and has only been an assistant for 4 seasons, doing almost exclusively recruiting and contacts. I think he'll be a good coach someday, but there is no assurance he will be a winner right away.I can do all things through pasta, which strengthens me.
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Originally posted by wantawinner View Postyoung guys with no street credit are doing it right now thats what i am saying. This is a start cant be worse then 10th place in the valley. If your guys have to buy in then we arent pushing them or finding the fire inside and thats what these young guys have and the players love it.
I'm looking for BU to take less of a risk on a more experienced asst. coach or head coach looking to move up in the MBB coaching ranks.
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Jerrance does have somes strong in-state connections...
but those who say Coach Les never had any recruiting connecitons obviously do not see the obvious...
I'm not saying he always got the blue chippers, but he did have some recruiting ties that he never gets credit for and some of those ties landed great players at Bu that we all enjoyed watching....
SOME of Bradley's best all time players came to Bradley BECAUSE of Jim Les' connections that were already in existence even before he was hired....contrary to those who say he came to BU with NO connections.
Recall that Mo had virtually NO connections to either Chicago area or Central IL, and had to beat the path all over to land players from Ohio & Louisiana..
Jim immediately landed more local kids than his last 3 or 4 predecessors combined..
BTW -- it's not as if top recruits are always beating the door down -- no, it's hard recruiting to Peoria as the next guy will find out...
-surely everyone knows that Jim's close ties to Chuck Buescher led to some of BU's very best players ever choosing Bradley -- Cellus, Ruffin, and even Dyricus and JC...
-Jim had lots of ties to the Catholic schools via his own history as well as his brother Tom Les' ties and Carl Maniscalco's ..several early recruits came this route as did Sammy and to a remote extent - even AW
-Jim had NBA connections both personally & through people like Dick Versace and even Kevin Eastman....several recruits can be attributed to those connections..
-Jim had close ties that landed juco kids like Boogie & Zach -- who were instrumental in getting to the Sweet Sixteen
-Jim had ties to the jucos and Texas kids through Al Brooks...
-JL even had some ties that got him at least some acquaintances in and around Chicago...where we got walt, and of course Sammy..
where schools like SIU have to hire the Chicago AAU people to funnel money their way (Irvin) and then all they get is the program cancers like Hare & Dillard...at least BU has done it the right way and gets good kids..tell me how many decent Chicago kids we've had since Hersey Hawkins & Anthony Manuel....and I'd even be reluctant to count Naperville...Last edited by tornado; 03-21-2011, 10:39 AM.
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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostYou are on a little bit of a Jerrance Howard-high right now.
I would see JH as a 2nd tier choice- he has never coached a team before, and has only been an assistant for 4 seasons, doing almost exclusively recruiting and contacts. I think he'll be a good coach someday, but there is no assurance he will be a winner right away.Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
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Originally posted by tornado View PostJerrance does have somes strong in-state connections...
but those who say Coach Les never had any recruiting connecitons obviously do not see the obvious...
I'm not saying he always got the blue chippers, but he did have some recruiting ties that he never gets credit for and some of those ties landed great players at Bu that we all enjoyed watching....
SOME of Bradley's best all time players came to Bradley BECAUSE of Jim Les' connections that were already in existence even before he was hired....contrary to those who say he came to BU with NO connections.
Recall that Mo had virtually NO connections to either Chicago area or Central IL, and had to beat the path all over to land players from Ohio & Louisiana..
Jim immediately landed more local kids than his last 3 or 4 predecessors combined..
BTW -- it's not as if top recruits are always beating the door down -- no, it's hard recruiting to Peoria as the next guy will find out...
-surely everyone knows that Jim's close ties to Chuck Buescher led to some of BU's very best players ever choosing Bradley -- Cellus, Ruffin, and even Dyricus and JC...
-Jim had lots of ties to the Catholic schools via his own history as well as his brother Tom Les' ties and Carl Maniscalco's ..several early recruits came this route as did Sammy and to a remote extent - even AW
-Jim had NBA connections both personally & through people like Dick Versace and even Kevin Eastman....several recruits can be attributed to those connections..
-Jim had close ties that landed juco kids like Boogie & Zach -- who were instrumental in getting to the Sweet Sixteen
-Jim had ties to the jucos and Texas kids through Al Brooks...
Mo had lots of connections in Chicago. Unfortunately he clearly got branded as not being able to coach offense.
JL had connections too, but I think got branded as well. ( I fully admit I had more ties into the recruiting situation under Mo)
The result was, both had to leave the Midwest too much at the end.
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Originally posted by wantawinner View PostLook at what butler and vcu are doing right now. They went with young guys that didnt have much experience and they are what we want. Why not take the hand that is feeding illinois with talent and bring it here. We may not get the big time guy but we may get the guys jim couldnt get. WINNING WILL CHANGE PEOPLE NOT WHY WE DIDNT BUY IN!!!!!!!!!!! PASSION for the game and wanting to win takes you a long way.
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