The Big East is a BIG FRAUD!!!

[TheAsianSensation]

It's worth comparing how the Big East does against seed expectations:

Pittsburgh: 3 wins short of seed expectation
Notre Dame: played to seed so far
Louisville: 2 wins short of seed expectation
Syracuse: played to seed so far
Georgetown: 1 win short of seed expectation
St John's: 1 win short of seed expectation
UConn: played to seed so far
Cincy: played to seed so far
Marquette: 1 win over seed expectation
Nova: played to seed
WVU: played to seed

They're minus-6 so far.

[Bravesfan]

Here's a great line this morning from the newswire.....
"ESPN analysts Dick Vitale and Jay Bilas made complete *****s out of themselves
after ripping the selection committee for giving at-large bids to schools from
mid-major conferences in VCU and UAB at the expense of major conference
schools like Colorado and Virginia Tech."

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110320/SPORTS11/103200357/Greedy-NCAA-snubs-Cinderella?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS

Here's an interesting stat....we all know 31 bids are automatic...so 37 are at-large bids

TEN at large bids went to the Big East out of a total of 29 BCS at-large bids...
so more than ONE in every three at large bids given to a BCS school was given to a Big East school, and yet only 2 or 3 will advance past the 2nd game (depending on Notre Dame's game today)

so I'd say all those extra bids to the lower level Big East teams like Villanova, Marquette, Georgetown, Cincy, WVU, & St. John's were good-ole-boys gifts form the selection committee.

Given that only 8 at large bids go to mid-majors -- it's surprising to see so many mid-major teams still alive and advancing...
..George Mason, San Diego State, Richmond, VCU, Butler BYU...at least FOUR mid-majors will make the Sweet Sixteen -- possibly six...

I think this proves ONCE AGAIN -- the top mid-majors deserve at large bids over the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th best teams in the big conferences...

In all fairness, most of those lower level Big East teams did have good resumes and deserved to be in. I think Villanova was the one HUGE exception as they are a team that had no business being anywhere near the tournament based on their last few weeks of play. And even Marquette probably could have been left out, irregardless of their win in the tournament.

My bigger gripes where with Michigan, Michigan St. and Illinois, where two out of those three could have easily been left out. Again, tournament wins aside, should they have all been there in the first place? I think not.

All the committee needed to do was keep five of the borderline average teams out and Missouri St., St. Mary's and even Harvard and Wichita St. could have been in. And even the pundits admitted we had a very soft bubble this year, so why all the love from the committee for these teams that made it? Money of course!

[Braves4Life]

I agree with your analysis Bravesfan.

[real fan]

The big East is a great conference but they do not deserve that many bids and neither did the big 10, there is so much parity in college basketball which is why the good mid-major teams can compete with most of these teams, heck Old Dominion played Butler even so except for a bad draw they could still be playing, this tour. needs to give more bids to the mids as they have proved they can compete with most of these so called power teams.

[amckillip]

To further validate that the Big East is dramatically overrated, the ONLY 2 teams to reach the sweet 16 did so by beating another Big East time in the round of 32. Not a single Big East team advanced to the Sweet 16 by beat a team from another conference in the round of 32 (ND could do it).

[BradleyBrave]

To further validate that the Big East is dramatically overrated, the ONLY 2 teams to reach the sweet 16 did so by beating another Big East time in the round of 32. Not a single Big East team advanced to the Sweet 16 by beat a team from another conference in the round of 32 (ND could do it).

Come on FSU!

[amckillip]

Come on FSU!

I'm torn, I actually like ND this year (despite the Hansborough hype), but I really don't like the Big East... I guess I'll call it a win-win?

[Dallas Brave]

It's worth comparing how the Big East does against seed expectations:

Pittsburgh: 3 wins short of seed expectation
Notre Dame: played to seed so far
Louisville: 2 wins short of seed expectation
Syracuse: played to seed so far
Georgetown: 1 win short of seed expectation
St John's: 1 win short of seed expectation
UConn: played to seed so far
Cincy: played to seed so far
Marquette: 1 win over seed expectation
Nova: played to seed
WVU: played to seed

They're minus-6 so far.

Marquette now a +2, but we know that they are really a midwest school!

[amckillip]

Marquette now a +2, but we know that they are really a midwest school!

It's negated by the -1 for Syracuse...

[Braves4Life]

Come on FSU!

ND will have problems with FSU's athleticism. If FSU hits the 3 and limits turnovers they will win. They have always had a lot of potential...... Remember, they beat Duke.

[Bravesfan]

ND will have problems with FSU's athleticism. If FSU hits the 3 and limits turnovers they will win. They have always had a lot of potential...... Remember, they beat Duke.

I had a pretty good day going on my bracket until I just saw this score:

FSU 43 ND 26!

It's far worse than I thought it would be for them! Only UConn and Marquette of all teams will be playing next week! Nice job guys. You are 8-9 overall, far worse than the 4-2 record of the Colonial Athletic Association!

[MVCfans]

Next year, whem it comes to Selection Sunday, give me more mid-majors and fewer mediocre BCS teams from "power" conferences.

Big Least facts (among others):

Only six top-four seeds in the tournament were eliminated the first weekend. Four came from the Big East.

The Big Least had exactly zero wins in the second round (now called third round) over teams from a conference other than its own.

Last year, Big East teams were seeded one, two, two, three, three, six, six, nine. Only one team ??” West Virginia ??” made a regional final.

http://www.mvcfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=996

[BradleyJD]

Let me first say this....The Big East was overrated.

However, the last team the Big East got in was Marquette and they are still playing.

I don' think you can say since BE teams lost, they all stink. I think Pitt deserved to be in. Just because they lost doesn't mean they are horrible.

[tornado]

wow -- 9 of 11 Big East teams are all gone -- and the ONLY TWO who made it (UConn and Marquette) are there via the scheduling fluke of having TWO Big East teams playing each other in the round of 32...thus assuring 100% that whoever got thru to the Sweet Sixteen would be from the Big East!
This conference is EXPOSED as one of the all time greatest frauds...

For the largest part...
their nonconference schedules are loaded with pansies and cupcakes to assure they get good records, they play all their non-conference games at home, and they rack up gobs of conference wins against the horribly bad bottom of their league like DePaul, South Florida, and Providence.
If anyone has cracked the code on RPI and get a total pass on the eye-test because they have all the east coast pundits in their pockets, it's the Big East...

Here's an interesting FACT -- every single team from the Big East that had a winning record in their own conference (Pitt, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Louisville, St. John's, Cincy, WVU, Georgetown) have all been bounced along with pretender Villanova.


also SIX mid-majors remain..one of whom had to come from the "play-in game" Wednesday...Hey -- this is a team that has 26 wins!!!
VCU beat ACC teams, they beat UCLA, lost by only ONE to a Big East team, lost by only 5 at Tennessee, won AT Wichita State, and now have SOUNDLY (and I mean really soundly) beaten USC, Gerogetown, and Purdue!!!

How was this team a "play-in" team??? What in the hey goes on in the heads of the Selection Committee peple??

[BradleyJD]

also SIX mid-majors remain..one of whom had to come from the "play-in game" Wednesday...Hey -- this is a team that has 26 wins!!!
VCU beat ACC teams, they beat UCLA, lost by only ONE to a Big East team, lost by only 5 at Tennessee, won AT Wichita State, and now have SOUNDLY (and I mean really soundly) beaten USC, Gerogetown, and Purdue!!!

How was this team a "play-in" team??? What in the hey goes on in the heads of the Selection Committee peple??

The selection committee was ripped for having VCU in the field at all.

I still think how a league does in the tourney does not mean the conference is better or worse.

Is the Valley awful just because ISU lost? Should we get no bids now??