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    The BIG EAST is doing it again. I believe they have lost nearly half of their first round games. Same as last year...George Mason just beat Villanova. I totally agree with Charles Barclay...This conference is way OVERATED!!! Yet, almost everyone in my previous post, "do you agree with 11 big east teams being in the tourney", agreed that there should have been 11 teams in the tourney. How can this be when 2 years in a row an exhorbitant number of big east teams continue to get beat by lower seeds? They look competitive because they play each other where there is parity among the teams. Yet, put them up against lower seeds and what happens? Of course there are the Connecticuts of the world...a really good team. But yet the majority of the big east is very mediocre in my opinion. My point being that more mid-majors should be in the tournament and fewer big east teams. One other thing...have you noticed the abnormal number of "cupcake" teams the big east plays in the non-conference? Connecticut and Syracuse have been especially criticized for the number of weak teams that they play.

  • #2
    The Big East had lots of good teams -- but I agree on your overrated claim as I tried to point out here...only three have lost so far

    So far...of the 11 that got NCAA bids...
    Louisville - a #4 seed - lost
    UConn - a #3 seed - got Bucknell and won
    Cincy - a #6 seed won
    West Virginia - a #4 seed won
    Pitt - a #1 seed got NC-Asheville and won
    St. John's - a #6 seed lost
    Villanova - the Big East team that I labeled as clearly the most suspect - got a #9 seed and lost to mid-major George Mason
    Marquette - plays Xavier tonight
    Syracuse - plays Indiana State tonight
    Notre Dame - plays tonight
    Georgetown - plays tonight

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      The Big East had lots of good teams -- but I agree on your overrated claim as I tried to point out here...only three have lost so far

      So far...of the 11 that got NCAA bids...
      Louisville - a #4 seed - lost
      UConn - a #3 seed - got Bucknell and won
      Cincy - a #6 seed won
      West Virginia - a #4 seed won
      Pitt - a #1 seed got NC-Asheville and won
      St. John's - a #6 seed lost
      Villanova - the Big East team that I labelled as clearly the most suspect - got a #9 seed and lost to mid-major George Mason
      Marquette - plays Xavier tonight
      Syracuse - plays Indiana State tonight
      Notre Dame - plays tonight
      Georgetown - plays tonight
      Like I said, nearly half have lost 3/7 and a couple barely won....

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      • #4
        like I said, I agree..

        Villanova's 38 RPI was more suspect by far than Missouri State's 23 RPI a few years back..
        all their early season wins were over teams that struggled early or were softies...
        but losing 8 of their last 10 & late season loses to Rutgers, South Florida, Providence were the games the selection committee should have identified as NIT worthy

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        • #5
          I still like the BE...Villanova was suppose to lose to GM...I understand questioning the seeding but not the number of teams.....

          In any event this is becoming a fun tournament

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          • #6
            Looks like the big east is facing a 7-4 1st round tally with Big Ten a 6-1 tally. Syracuse currently romping IN State by 10 points after first 10 minutes and VCU up by 10 at the half against Georgetown.

            Jason

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            • #7
              The only B-East team I've had the priviledge to watch...getting thumped...is G'town. If they are any indication of the B-East teams that lost, they are not very good - many weaknesses exposed.
              Not to take anything away from a quality VCU team that we saw come away with a W in CK arena in Wichita.
              Talk about a confident & poised team!
              Almost wish I had VCU advancing past round 2 in my bracket.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                The Big East had lots of good teams -- but I agree on your overrated claim as I tried to point out here...only three have lost so far

                So far...of the 11 that got NCAA bids...
                Louisville - a #4 seed - lost
                UConn - a #3 seed - got Bucknell and won
                Cincy - a #6 seed won
                West Virginia - a #4 seed won
                Pitt - a #1 seed got NC-Asheville and won
                St. John's - a #6 seed lost
                Villanova - the Big East team that I labeled as clearly the most suspect - got a #9 seed and lost to mid-major George Mason
                Marquette - plays Xavier tonight
                Syracuse - plays Indiana State tonight
                Notre Dame - plays tonight
                Georgetown - plays tonight
                Georgetown loses to VCU
                Notre Dame wins
                Syracuse & Marquette both win...
                ..so the Big East goes 7-4 in the first round with three of em losing to lower seeds..and 'Nove losing to a team seeded about equal.

                we know at least TWO more will lose in this next round since Marquette now plays Syracuse...and Cincy plays UConn..but it also assures at least two of those guys will be in the Sweet Sixteen
                BUT West Virginia (plays Kentucky) - a higher seed they are quite possibly going to lose to...
                and...only Pitt (Butler) and Notre Dame (Florida State) play lower seeded teams...

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