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  • #31
    Originally posted by amckillip View Post
    Same reason companies use consulting firms to make decisions - minimizes risk.
    Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BraveGrad View Post
      Dont you want a firm that has vast knowledge of how this process works this since the President and AD dont? 75k is nothing if it means we get the right guy for the job.
      I would expect the AD to have this knowledge; it is his job. However, I understand that there are reasons for a search firm as well.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BraveGrad View Post
        Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.
        Haha, that is true sometimes, but a LARGE portion of the time they are brought to make a decision the company already knows needs to be made and don't want to be the bad guy. I've been in meetings where that strategy has been discussed and implemented in two top companies.

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        • #34
          Yes some companies will bring in "The Bobs" to do that kind of stuff but in this case Parker was brought in to do this

          "As the world's leading executive search firm in collegiate athletics, we understand the complexities involved in collegiate athletic searches, including the high expectations and demands of various constituency groups and the management of public perception. To address those issues and challenges faced by the client, the Parker Collegiate Athletic Search Process was developed. Through this process, Parker Executive Search has successfully completed search assignments for many public and private colleges and universities, providing leaders at all levels of intercollegiate sports, including athletic administrators and coaches."

          Bringing this firm in does not in anyway reduce the pressure or risk on JG or MC, it simply helps them make the best choice they can.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BraveGrad View Post
            Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.
            But if the firm is respected, you can pass a bad hire off as a fluke, and their butt is covered.

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            • #36
              If the new hire doesn't work out, it doesn't matter how good the search firm is. It will still fall on Glasser and Cross. I know that no one on here will buy "It's not our fault, it was the search firm"
              Return to Glory

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              • #37
                I like that they are bringing in a group of experts in this matter. Imagine the alternative? How would you expect them to be able to reach out to said candidates? $75 K may sound steep but in reality for an executive search job it is on par with industry standard.

                On keeping a lid on it. We all now know they are capable of doing that, just wish it had happened with JL's firing.
                "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SFP View Post
                  I like that they are bringing in a group of experts in this matter. Imagine the alternative? How would you expect them to be able to reach out to said candidates? $75 K may sound steep but in reality for an executive search job it is on par with industry standard.

                  On keeping a lid on it. We all now know they are capable of doing that, just wish it had happened with JL's firing.
                  I am starting to come around and actually like the search firm. However, the results will be the final judge of this process.
                  Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                  ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rusty 54 View Post
                    If the new hire doesn't work out, it doesn't matter how good the search firm is. It will still fall on Glasser and Cross. I know that no one on here will buy "It's not our fault, it was the search firm"
                    JG and MC aren't worried about us, its the board of trustees that they care about.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                      JG and MC aren't worried about us, its the board of trustees that they care about.
                      I agree, and to me its sad. We may be viewed as a fringe group on a message board, but to me we are just a bunch of average fans that live and die Bradley basketball. I bet we have everyone from BSS members to the Red Sea to people in the last row at Carver to people who haven't been to a Bradley game in years. We are the "10,000 coaches"

                      They aren't required to be transparent to us average joes, but it sure would be nice.
                      Return to Glory

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Rusty 54 View Post
                        If the new hire doesn't work out, it doesn't matter how good the search firm is. It will still fall on Glasser and Cross. I know that no one on here will buy "It's not our fault, it was the search firm"
                        Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                        JG and MC aren't worried about us, its the board of trustees that they care about.

                        We all need to remember that the search firm is only as good as the information and guidelines that they are given by the University.
                        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                          We all need to remember that the search firm is only as good as the information and guidelines that they are given by the University.
                          They seem to have done a good job w/ the recent hires they have coordinated...


                          Just look at what Fox has done @ Georgia...


                          I am not worried yet.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                            Haha, that is true sometimes, but a LARGE portion of the time they are brought to make a decision the company already knows needs to be made and don't want to be the bad guy. I've been in meetings where that strategy has been discussed and implemented in two top companies.
                            I do some consulting work. I respectfully disagree.
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                              I do some consulting work. I respectfully disagree.
                              As have I, disagree all you want. It is still very true.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                                As have I, disagree all you want. It is still very true.
                                No it isn't. Very far from the truth actually.
                                Onward and Upward!

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