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  • #31
    Originally posted by mexicobufan View Post
    I was in the give JL one more year camp and I wish this is what we would have done. But its over and JL isnt coming back. I dont understand why we have people beating this in to the ground. I dont want to bash the President for firing JL and I dont want to bash players or recruites for leaving. Its over, its done with. What I want and expect is for BU to make a great hire and that we build for the future. Why cant the fan base get on with it and get together and support BU basketball? There isnt three different camps in this there is one "Bradley basketball fans".

    Lets start talking about the future, you cant change the past.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
      I really hope they are happy for what the have done!
      This happens everytime there is a coaching change ANYWHERE... what did you expect??

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      • #33
        Originally posted by lake Camelot View Post
        Not if we hire the right coach and he gets several other good players to come here.....we will eventually be fine sooner or later.
        DePaul, Wake, Evansville, SLU, Iowa, Minny, ISU, and even EKU.....so far a few schools are finding out that it's gonna be a lot closer to "later" than "sooner"

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        • #34
          Step away from the ledge. Take a trip down memory lane.

          The last "high major" recruit from KY we were in on committed to Ohio. Not TOSU, but Ohio.

          Here is a 9 page thread, complete with "up and comer", "best kept secret", "top player in the state", "late bloomer", and even a Courtney Lee comparison.

          He had a 3 star scout rating and a higher ESPN score than our own Remy.

          http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11882

          He averaged a stellar 2.8 ppg, playing in all 32 games, starting 3. Not exactly the impact player.

          My point is not to rip Remy, but a lot of times fans get a little too worked up over recruits. If it was an exact science, a lot of coaches wouldn't lose their jobs each year.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mexicobufan View Post
            I was in the give JL one more year camp and I wish this is what we would have done. But its over and JL isnt coming back. I dont understand why we have people beating this in to the ground. I dont want to bash the President for firing JL and I dont want to bash players or recruites for leaving. Its over, its done with. What I want and expect is for BU to make a great hire and that we build for the future. Why cant the fan base get on with it and get together and support BU basketball? There isnt three different camps in this there is one "Bradley basketball fans".

            Lets start talking about the future, you cant change the past.
            Well said. I think many want to try and place blame and label this or that. Just move on and let the new coach build a program here.

            The sky isn't falling.
            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
              The last "high major" recruit from KY we were in on committed to Ohio. ...
              I knew it would only be a matter of time until this comparison was made..but here are a couple responses..

              -first Ricardo IS good and will be a fine player but wasn't rated anywhere near as high as Remy and never got Big Ten and SEC coaches calling

              -second -- Rico got duped -- he thought he'd get more chance to play at Ohio than at BU so chose Ohio...but instead got about what Milos got as far as opportunity to play...

              BUT had he come to BU -- where Bradley ended up with a short bench -- Rico would have played a ton more here...
              at Ohio...he only averaged 11 minutes per game...didn't start...and was basicaly told in their offense there -- that the PG gets the ball to the forwards (FIVE forwards averaged more playing time and FAR more shots attempted than Rico) or shoots it himself (DJ Cooper averaged 13.5 shots attempted per game)...
              so -- Ricardo Johnson's first season at Ohio may not really be a good measure.......
              By contrast -- Walt Lemon -- who BU landed when Rico chose Ohio -- was used as a slashing/driving guard...played twice as many minutes as Rico and attempted three times as many shots as Rico got...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                whoa...cut it out -- you're just trying to stir up fear with your "sky is falling" tone...

                Remy Abell = Courtney Lee.....this one will haunt us for years....
                So he will lead a midmajor to the Sweet 16, be a first round NBA pick, and start in the NBA Finals?

                How much shall we wager? I've got a mortgage and a new car to pay for.
                Onward and Upward!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                  So he will lead a midmajor to the Sweet 16, be a first round NBA pick, and start in the NBA Finals?

                  How much shall we wager? I've got a mortgage and a new car to pay for.
                  Not the gambling type, however, judging from the names of the coaches in attendance at some of his games, I don't think that Remy will end up at a mid-major this time!
                  Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                  ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                  • #39
                    short term v long term

                    You have to fire a coach if you think it is in your best long term interest. No way should you keep a coach because you are afraid 1 recruiting class may lose some players. You have no idea how these players will pan out, they may not be good, transfer, quit, ineligible, injury.

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                    • #40
                      we all know that Southside -- but that's where opinions differ on whether it IS in BU's best interest...we are all entitled to poinions, right?

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                      • #41
                        short term v long term

                        Why would firing Jim Les not be in Bradley's best interest? I think Les has improved, but I don't think he is a good coach. He has been given plenty of time. What am I missing?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Southside View Post
                          Why would firing Jim Les not be in Bradley's best interest? I think Les has improved, but I don't think he is a good coach. He has been given plenty of time. What am I missing?
                          let it go....water under that there bridge....
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                          • #43
                            For one thing, you are missing one major reason he gets criticized for not being a good coach-- injuries. There have been serious, sometimes season-long injuries to key players every year since the 2006 Sweet 16 season. People are free to assess his coaching, but lets not ignore the significant impact the injuries have had.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              For one thing, you are missing one major reason he gets criticized for not being a good coach-- injuries. There have been serious, sometimes season-long injuries to key players every year since the 2006 Sweet 16 season. People are free to assess his coaching, but lets not ignore the significant impact the injuries have had.
                              I completely understand that the injuries had an impact. However, I don't think they overshadow his actual coaching deficiencies.
                              When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                              • #45
                                I fully understand that opinion. I can't see why some anti-JL folks seem unable or unwilling to see the opposite opinion.

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