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  • #16
    Originally posted by jrish12 View Post
    Or the paperwork didnt get to Cross' desk until today, meaning he would have no clue as to if Sam had asked for a release or not and hence Sam got his release today. This isnt some thing where Sam just strolls into Dr. Cross' office and asks "can I have my release?" It is a very formal thing and paperwork tends to move slow through offices, especially ones that just had a firing.
    Your star player files for release and the AD doesn't know, and doesn't get notified/asks about it before he gives the paper a quote? Come on!

    One thing I could take. But this release thing, the Max B offer, the way the firing was handled? This athletic department/administration is anything but the first class program we expect, at least from my observations.

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    • #17
      Pretty sure max could afford to be a preferred walk on for a year. Especially since his grades have to be decent since he has Ivy League schools looking at him that he could potentially get plenty of academic money that would offset costs. Let him play one year as a preferred walk on and give him a scholie next year if he works out and is ok with it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jrish12 View Post
        Pretty sure max could afford to be a preferred walk on for a year. Especially since his grades have to be decent since he has Ivy League schools looking at him that he could potentially get plenty of academic money that would offset costs. Let him play one year as a preferred walk on and give him a scholie next year if he works out and is ok with it.
        You think he's going to take preferred walk-on status at BU who has no coach and is totally up in the air when he has scholarship offers from Big Ten schools?

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        • #19
          depends who the coach is, and if that coach would guarantee a scholie for the next season. It also depends on what Max wants to do. If he wants to stay close to home and play alot or wants to go to Illinois or Michigan and ride the pine but be at a big 10 school. I dont know, Ive never talked to him and cant read his mind so im not going to go on any further.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
            I realize nothing has officially been released by Bradley regarding TB, but if everyone comes back and all four recruits show up (and nobody has announced they aren't at this point) we do not have a scholarship available.
            Agreed...... but when did we last have a year when everyone returned. I can think of 2 or 3 players that may not be back (and that held true even when Les was our coach). Trust me, an opening won't be a problem.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
              Agreed...... but when did we last have a year when everyone returned. I can think of 2 or 3 players that may not be back (and that held true even when Les was our coach). Trust me, an opening won't be a problem.
              Oh I know. I've said all along that it happens with a returning coach, it's almost guaranteed to happen this offseason. Just wanted to point out that as of right now (since nobody has said they aren't returning/coming in) that we do not have an open scholarship.
              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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              • #22
                Did anyone see Andrew Davis is St. Louis? I never saw him on the bench and it made me wonder if he was coming back.
                Go small or go home!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                  Your star player files for release and the AD doesn't know, and doesn't get notified/asks about it before he gives the paper a quote? Come on!

                  One thing I could take. But this release thing, the Max B offer, the way the firing was handled? This athletic department/administration is anything but the first class program we expect, at least from my observations.
                  Instead of making snap judgements, stop and think about how the flow of information works. The PJStar quoted Cross as saying Sam hadn't asked for his release in a story that was published yesterday. That means that the reporting for that story was done on Wednesday. In all likelyhood, Sam didn't file the paperwork asking for his release until yesterday, which Cross then agreed to and the PJStar reported today.

                  In other words, at the time Cross gave that quote, he still hadn't recieved the paperwork, but by the time the story is published, he had.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                    Your star player files for release and the AD doesn't know, and doesn't get notified/asks about it before he gives the paper a quote? Come on!

                    One thing I could take. But this release thing, the Max B offer, the way the firing was handled? This athletic department/administration is anything but the first class program we expect, at least from my observations.
                    The firing was not handled all that well, at least IMO based on what has been posted here and written in the PJ Star. But I think you make WAY too big a deal on how the SM release has been handled. And besides, he may still yet choose to come back. This release gives SM the chance to talk with other schools and explore other options. He can test the waters and still decide that Bradley is the best place for him.

                    But I doubt that the paper and/or MC was purposely trying to hide anything or mislead the public.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by amettrick View Post
                      Instead of making snap judgements, stop and think about how the flow of information works. The PJStar quoted Cross as saying Sam hadn't asked for his release in a story that was published yesterday. That means that the reporting for that story was done on Wednesday. In all likelyhood, Sam didn't file the paperwork asking for his release until yesterday, which Cross then agreed to and the PJStar reported today.

                      In other words, at the time Cross gave that quote, he still hadn't recieved the paperwork, but by the time the story is published, he had.
                      Agreed. Why are some so quick to laud some, yet throw others under the bus?
                      Onward and Upward!

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                      • #26
                        You don't ask for your release then come back. I hope I'm wrong.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                          Your star player files for release and the AD doesn't know, and doesn't get notified/asks about it before he gives the paper a quote? Come on!

                          One thing I could take. But this release thing, the Max B offer, the way the firing was handled? This athletic department/administration is anything but the first class program we expect, at least from my observations.
                          Very much agree with your post. Things do not seem to be handled in a very professional manner over the past week! Actually, things appear to be in disarray.

                          Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
                          The firing was not handled all that well, at least IMO based on what has been posted here and written in the PJ Star. But I think you make WAY too big a deal on how the SM release has been handled. And besides, he may still yet choose to come back. This release gives SM the chance to talk with other schools and explore other options. He can test the waters and still decide that Bradley is the best place for him.

                          But I doubt that the paper and/or MC was purposely trying to hide anything or mislead the public.
                          I do not think that anyone was hiding anything... However, maybe Bradley needs a better public relations person.



                          Originally posted by FutureBrave2013 View Post
                          You don't ask for your release then come back. I hope I'm wrong.
                          Exactly.. Very rarely does a player ask for a release and then come back to the college. I would be extremely shocked if that happened in Sam's case.
                          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by jrish12 View Post
                            What does the administration have to do with it? If his decision is in fact because he wants to pursue his masters degree in sports communications, WHICH BRADLEY DOES NOT OFFER, then he was leaving anyway wouldnt you think? You guys just keep thinking this a basketball only decision which couldnt be farther from the truth. Chances are Sam will not be playing professionally, now if I am wrong on that I couldnt be any happier for him. But with a masters degree in the field he has been studying for 4 years, he has a better chance of getting a good job out of grad school.

                            With that said, Sam has a long, prosperous life ahead of him whether his last year of eligibility is in a Bradley uniform or not. I wish him the best on his endeavors

                            I wish Sam the best and don't have any problems with him leaving.....BUT I doubt he leaves if JL is still here....then maybe he pursues his masters elsewhere after next season.....if he plays somewhere else and doesn't finish his masters then we'll know he only wanted to play at BU if JL was coach.

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                            • #29
                              I guess my age has caught up with me in the Sammy saga. I was brought up that you finish what you start. You don't quit on others that mean something to you. I can see his reason for transfering because BU doesn't offer the Masters program he wants but I would bet alot of money that thought would never have crossed his mind if JL was still his coach. NO WAY he bails on Jim and his teammates.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                                I guess my age has caught up with me in the Sammy saga. I was brought up that you finish what you start. You don't quit on others that mean something to you. I can see his reason for transfering because BU doesn't offer the Masters program he wants but I would bet alot of money that thought would never have crossed his mind if JL was still his coach. NO WAY he bails on Jim and his teammates.
                                He did finish where he started... Graduating from Bradley!
                                He did not quit on Bradley... the Bradley admin quit on him!
                                People do NOT understand that Sam and Carl are VERY close to the Les family (not just Jim, but others that played for BU also).
                                All Sam was asking for was one more year of Jim Les. It could have been a great year. Just read and listen instead of typing a personal agenda. Some of you may have understood it was more than just wins and loses of a year.

                                Oh Well.......
                                It's not Business, It's Personal

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