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  • #91
    I'm a pretty passionate guy, but I also think you have to remember what you're passionate about sometimes. I always have to check myself when talking about real people (players, coaches, administrators, bradleyfans posters)... What is it I'm passionate about, and what is it I'm going after and is my passion conflicting with bigger things, like my sense of honor and ethics. Not talking about anyone else here, just my own approach.

    Do I want SM to stay? OH YEAH.

    Will I think a little less of him if he goes? Maybe, but I'll try not to because...

    Do I have any right to go after him if he goes? No, not really. He's just trying to get by like most of the rest of us. Things change and people have to do things in their lives and this is just basketball for me, since I'm just a fan.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
      So Sam is going to leave Bradley to go to UIUC for sports broadcasting?


      Leaving a school that has produced 3 Hall of Fame broadcasters in Chick Hearn, Jack Brickhouse, and Charlie Steiner AND Ralph Lawler to go to a school that has produced famed big ten network broadcaster Stephen Bardo?
      He's leaving to avoid the wrecking ball swinging through Bradley. The sports broadcasting reason is necessary to give to the NCAA.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View Post
        He's leaving to avoid the wrecking ball swinging through Bradley. The sports broadcasting reason is necessary to give to the NCAA.
        Geez man! Sounds like you and a few other posters are sitting around in some dark watering hole and taking turns posting these cryptic depressing messages.......I KNOW THIS DOES A HELLUVA LOT FOR OUR PLAYERS AND RECRUITS! KEEP IT UP........ "BRADLEY FAN".

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Canton BU fan View Post
          My 10 year old son is not taking this news well at all. Sammy has been a Brave almost as long as he can remember. He has a #5 Bradley shirt he wears all the time. He happened to wear that shirt when were at the tourney game last year against Creighton and had his big game. He just had to wear that shirt again the next day. So we washed it out in the hotel sink. I hope for his sake even more than mine that maybe he will be back. If not, he will be missed greatly in this household.
          I feel ya, he will be missed a lot by me too. Funny thing is I have a friend who is a huge Illini fan who said Sam could never play in the Big 10 whenever we watch Bradley. I always argued he is a lot better than he gives him credit for and could play in the Big 10, now I might be proven right unfortunately.

          He will be in high standing as a Brave always. However AW went from a good Brave to a great Brave that will forever be remembered his 5th year, I think Sammy could do the same. He could elevate to the level of great Braves, especially if he took this team somewhere next year with TB.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by JMM28 View Post
            Leaving a school that has produced 3 Hall of Fame broadcasters...
            no ...graduating from one...

            btw the way -- Sam has not left and is still an active student on spring break ... hows about cutting him some slack and see what happens...
            Having lost JL... the right hire would have a shot at still having a good team

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            • #96
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              no ...graduating from one...

              btw the way -- Sam has not left and is still an active student on spring break ... hows about cutting him some slack and see what happens...
              Having lost JL... the right hire would have a shot at still having a good team
              Yeah, good call. Even if he gets his release (if he's actually seeking one) that does't mean he won't be back on the court for us next season. He's still with us, and still a student at the school, as I presume, are all of these guys... So let's try to keep that in mind as we post.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by SFP View Post
                Regardless of why he's bolting, his legacy at BU will not shine as bright as it could. Unless he takes his next team to greatness he'll be just a cog in the wheel for one year. I'm all about free will, so as I said before I have no animosity whatsoever with his decision. What he needs to recognize is that there will be consequences good and bad from leaving. Only he knows what is right for him and what he can live with.

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                I think one of the consequences of him leaving is he won't go down as one of the best to ever play at BU.

                My unofficial math says he has 1210 career points at BU. In 08/09 he had 454 points. If he stays and has an equally good year he would finish his career with 1664 points and surpass AW for the top ten in BU history.

                I think he would also end up playing in more games than anyone in BU history. He probably has other milestones too. I do believe if he stays he could be one of the best ever.

                If he has played his last game, then he was pretty good but not one of the greats. He will get his 450 at a new school and will soon be forgotten by them.

                On another plane, where were these other schools when Sam graduated high school? Were they offering then? BU took a chance and gave him his chance. BU has something like $100,000 invested in the guy.

                Isn't all this worth something? Even if it means not winning quite as many games next year? I don't know what is right for SM but I hope he doesn't make some knee jerk reaction and leaves just to show loyalty to his coach who is already gone.

                Just saying.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  btw the way -- Sam has not left and is still an active student on spring break ... hows about cutting him some slack and see what happens...
                  Having lost JL... the right hire would have a shot at still having a good team
                  Thank you tornado! I was hoping someone would say this. Sam simply had to ask for his release now so as to keep his options open. He's still a Brave and hopefully will lead his brothers onto the court at BU next Fall.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by braveatheart View Post
                    On another plane, where were these other schools when Sam graduated high school? Were they offering then? BU took a chance and gave him his chance. BU has something like $100,000 invested in the guy.
                    Well, Tuition, room and board, and the activity and health fee total $33,374/year. Now, accounting for the free gear Sammy has gotten through the basketball program, medical attention, etc., call it $36K or 37K per year?

                    at $36K for 4 years, thats $144,000. Dont want to sell yourself almost $50,000 short

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                    • Originally posted by jrish12 View Post
                      Well, Tuition, room and board, and the activity and health fee total $33,374/year. Now, accounting for the free gear Sammy has gotten through the basketball program, medical attention, etc., call it $36K or 37K per year?

                      at $36K for 4 years, thats $144,000. Dont want to sell yourself almost $50,000 short
                      Cheap investment for the tickets and gear that were sold because of him! Let's not start talking about the amount of money a program puts into a player. SM is a celebrity in P-town and I'm sure the University got their investment back and then some.
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                      • Originally posted by braveatheart View Post
                        I think one of the consequences of him leaving is he won't go down as one of the best to ever play at BU.

                        My unofficial math says he has 1210 career points at BU. In 08/09 he had 454 points. If he stays and has an equally good year he would finish his career with 1664 points and surpass AW for the top ten in BU history.

                        I think he would also end up playing in more games than anyone in BU history. He probably has other milestones too. I do believe if he stays he could be one of the best ever.

                        If he has played his last game, then he was pretty good but not one of the greats. He will get his 450 at a new school and will soon be forgotten by them.

                        On another plane, where were these other schools when Sam graduated high school? Were they offering then? BU took a chance and gave him his chance. BU has something like $100,000 invested in the guy.

                        Isn't all this worth something? Even if it means not winning quite as many games next year? I don't know what is right for SM but I hope he doesn't make some knee jerk reaction and leaves just to show loyalty to his coach who is already gone.

                        Just saying.
                        Sam could have easily gone to a BCS school, he came to BU because he really liked JL and his dad played at BU. Now JL is gone and he (among many) does not like the direction BU is headed.

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                        • I was just bringing up how much tuition and fees were for any student who attends the university, which is public knowledge published on the BU website.

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                          • According to what Dr. Cross told Dave Reynolds, Sam has NOT asked for his release....

                            On another topic, Cross said BU guard Sam Maniscalco, who is thought to be headed to Illinois for his final season, has not requested his release from Bradley.

                            ???Sam and I haven??™t talked,??? Cross said.


                            I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, relax and wait and see what unfolds over the next couple of weeks...
                            "Losers find an excuse...winners find a way" - Joe Stowell

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                            • Dr. Cross only said "Sam and I haven't talked". That doesn't mean that Sammy hasn't asked for his release. For all we know, Sammy could've requested his release in writing and sent it to Prez G. And Dr. Cross. Since Dr. Cross is in Missouri at the MVC tourney, it would make sense that he and Sammy haven't yet spoken. The Journal Star did say that it was confirmed by two different sources.

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                              • Originally posted by BU FAMILY View Post
                                Dr. Cross only said "Sam and I haven't talked". That doesn't mean that Sammy hasn't asked for his release. For all we know, Sammy could've requested his release in writing and sent it to Prez G. And Dr. Cross. Since Dr. Cross is in Missouri at the MVC tourney, it would make sense that he and Sammy haven't yet spoken. The Journal Star did say that it was confirmed by two different sources.
                                Cross said BU guard Sam Maniscalco, who is thought to be headed to Illinois for his final season, has not requested his release from Bradley.

                                Maybe Sam has asked...I dunno....but all I have to go by is what Dr. Cross said.
                                "Losers find an excuse...winners find a way" - Joe Stowell

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