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  • #61
    In the end, it does not matter.

    I think most people here are BU fans. I think we have seen now that some are/were just Jim Les fans.

    If players leaving and blaming the President makes some feel better, that is fine. The sun will still rise in the morning. BU will still field a team next year.

    Life goes on...
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
      I never said he was a traitor either.

      I would love for you to show me where I said that.


      Again, since you seem to know how/why Sammy is leaving, tell me this: Is he leaving because of his major or because Jim is not coaching?

      or answer me this: Why are people blaming the President or A.D. for making a choice on Les? Isn't it fair for them to do that?
      Show me where I claimed it was you that said that. On the other hand, I don't recall anyone at all "cheering the players for leaving" or saying they "hope the next coach fails".

      I don't know how/why Sammy is leaving, which I've already stated it doesn't matter to me why he is leaving. I believe he has every right to make that decision in his life, without being called a "traitor" or saying he "quit". Again, nowhere in this post did I claim you're the one that said those things.

      You would also have to ask the people that are "blaming the President or A.D. for making a choice on Les" why they are doing so. I don't see how I could answer that for them. It may be their opinion, but I'm not sure it's "fair" at this point. The results of their decisions will speak louder than anything else.
      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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      • #63
        Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
        I believe he has every right to make that decision in his life, without being called a "traitor" or saying he "quit".
        I believe everyone has a right to make a decision as well.

        However, IF (and I don't know this) he is leaving because a coaching change was made, then he is quitting on his teammates.

        IF he is leaving for his major (and I assume he was doing this regardless of coach) then his plan never changed and his teammates knew this.
        When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
          However, IF (and I don't know this) he is leaving because a coaching change was made, then he is quitting on his teammates.
          I disagree wholeheartedly with this statement. He is making a decision regarding HIS life and it's considered "quitting" on his teammates, especially when he will have already graduated?
          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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          • #65
            Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
            I disagree wholeheartedly with this statement. He is making a decision regarding HIS life and it's considered "quitting" on his teammates, especially when he will have already graduated?
            It's fine to disagree. I have no problem with that.

            Do you think he would have played next season if a change had not been made?
            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
              It's fine to disagree. I have no problem with that.

              Do you think he would have played next season if a change had not been made?
              I honestly feel that he would've stayed if Les was given another year. But that isn't the case. And if they are going to bring in a new coach then Sammy would have to learn a new system for only a year. If he is going to have to learn a new system either way, why not go onto the bigger stage and play for a team that will have a much better shot at making the NCAA tournament next year? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't like U of I, but they have a lot better chance of making the tourney than we do.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DUBrave5 View Post
                I honestly feel that he would've stayed if Les was given another year. But that isn't the case. And if they are going to bring in a new coach then Sammy would have to learn a new system for only a year. If he is going to have to learn a new system either way, why not go onto the bigger stage and play for a team that will have a much better shot at making the NCAA tournament next year? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't like U of I, but they have a lot better chance of making the tourney than we do.
                That they do. But they had a better chance when SM signed here as well.

                Again, if he doesn't want to be a Brave, that is fine. I wouldn't want people here who are not dedicated to Bradley University and the program.

                Whoever is brought in has to create a new and better atmosphere. They need to find dedicated players and build the program into a competitive one. To do that they need everyone on board and committed.

                I enjoyed watching SM, but this is a new era.
                When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                  Again, if he doesn't want to be a Brave, that is fine. I wouldn't want people here who are not dedicated to Bradley University and the program.
                  I think that SM was dedicated to the past program. I look at it from this perspective. He is graduating in May, he is weighing his options. Just like any other graduate. If he wants to play 1 more year and the best option for him is at another school, so be it. If his best option is here, so be it.
                  Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope.

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                  • #69
                    Everyone let's get a perspective here. I've seen more emotions here on this board, then the last time I saw two women at Bloomingdale fighting over the last pair of size 6.5 black Jimmy Choo 3 inch pumps on sale for 50%.

                    Serious folks... This is only a game and I hope most of you have left time to discuss and read up on real current events that effect your life now and your children's life in the future.

                    I love BU basketball and wish it the best but win or lose we all carry on. What I'm getting at, there are much broader issues that we all need to look into then entertainment. I can see how it effects the players and coaches because it goes beyond entertainment for them, but us the fans?
                    "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                    ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by SFP View Post
                      Everyone let's get a perspective here. I've seen more emotions here on this board, then the last time I saw two women at Bloomingdale fighting over the last pair of size 6.5 black Jimmy Choo 3 inch pumps on sale for 50%.

                      Serious folks... This is only a game and I hope most of you have left time to discuss and read up on real current events that effect your life now and your children's life in the future.

                      I love BU basketball and wish it the best but win or lose we all carry on. What I'm getting at, there are much broader issues that we all need to look into then entertainment. I can see how it effects the players and coaches because it goes beyond entertainment for them, but us the fans?
                      For me.

                      Sports = Golf > School > Future > Growing Up > Being Responsible

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
                        For me.

                        Sports = Golf > School > Future > Growing Up > Being Responsible
                        You are young and your priorities/perspective should be different then us older posters.
                        "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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                        • #72
                          To those who are critical of Sammy, would you be giving SM just as hard of a time if he was leaving to go pro, as opposed to transferring?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                            To those who are critical of Sammy, would you be giving SM just as hard of a time if he was leaving to go pro, as opposed to transferring?
                            You mean like people were with POB? It's hard to say how they would feel.

                            I guess the only difference for me here is that all indications were that SM was coming back. Now, all of a sudden, he is not.
                            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                            • #74
                              He might as well declare for the draft.
                              Onward and Upward!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Future Walk-On View Post
                                For me.

                                Sports = Golf > School > Future > Growing Up > Being Responsible
                                ummmm.... you forgot parties and women!
                                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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