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Originally posted by shaunguthI would bet any amount of money that in the next five years we will not have made it at least to the Sweet 16 in the NCAA Tournament!!!
How much would you wager that BU doesn't compete (ie. top 3) in the league for 5 years?When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View PostThat's okay - for many here, as long as we can finish 3rd in the conference, who needs a sweet 16 appearance????People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
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I really hope these rumors are not true. Sammy's a great player and I wish him the best wherever he goes, but I personally can not stand U of I. The only worse situation, for me, would be seeing him in a Duke or UNC uniform. Anywhere else, provided it's not another valley school, would be fine. I really hope SM comes back next year, but we'll just see what happens. It's hard for me to believe that I've seen the last of SM in a Braves uniform.
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Originally posted by shaunguth View PostI'm of the feeling that the NCAA tournament (and success in that tournament) should be the goal of any basketball team and their fans.
I think that is why this move was made.
Jim's average record was 17-16 (15.5). You aren't getting to too many NCAA's with that record.
Do we know the next coach will win conference titles and go to the big dance? No, but we did have 9 years and saw what Jim did year in and year out.
If your goal is to go to and compete in NCAA's regularly, the change was needed.When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Back to the topic, I think it would be a mistake to SM to go to U of I. They already have so many talented guards there as it is. He would not play more than 20 mins a game and would serve as a back up point guard at best. His limatations defensively would also show a lot more in b10 play IMO
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Originally posted by BradleyJD View PostThat's not hard to do. BU only has 1 in 50 years. Not hard to take that side of the bet.
How much would you wager that BU doesn't compete (ie. top 3) in the league for 5 years????People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
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I reccommend we stick to factual stuff and not personal stuff.....
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Originally posted by BradleyJD View PostIf he leaves, it's because he decides to. Nothing else.
Sam absolutely does not want to leave....and only a mountain of extremely undesirable circumstances could every force him or his family to even consider it....
so to say "nothing else" ..is wrong as there is not only something and not 'nothing'...there's a mountain of something...
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Originally posted by shaunguth View PostI guess it's how you define success. For me, it is making the NCAA tournament and having at least some success there. I guess some people would rather have isu's last four years than Bradley's last six years. I would not.
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Originally posted by TheHeemyMonster View PostBack to the topic, I think it would be a mistake to SM to go to U of I. They already have so many talented guards there as it is. He would not play more than 20 mins a game and would serve as a back up point guard at best. His limatations defensively would also show a lot more in b10 play IMO
I disagree. I think he would start at PG and play very well for Illinois.
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Here's the rule from the NCAA website. Perhaps they revised it or I am not reading it correctly? It doesn't seem like he'd be able to transfer if he was going to play basketball for Bruce. Maybe this only pertains to scholarship players and Sammy would walk on?
Graduate Student Eligibility
A student-athlete who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of the college or university which he or she previously attended as an undergraduate student may participate in intercollegiate athletics, provided he or she has eligibility remaining and is within five calendar years of initial full-time collegiate enrollment for Division I and within the first 10 full-time semesters of collegiate enrollment for Divisions II and III.
Also, a student-athlete who has eligibility remaining and is within the specified 10-semester period may participate while enrolled in a graduate or professional school at a Division II college or university other than the institution at which he or she completed an undergraduate degree.
Finally, a student-athlete who has eligibility remaining and is within the specified five-year period may participate while enrolled in a graduate or professional school at a Division I college or university other than the institution at which he or she completed an undergraduate degree, provided he or she meets the criteria of the one-time transfer exception to the general transfer residence requirement. That exception is as follows:
The student-athlete must be seeking to participate in a sport other than baseball, football, basketball and men's ice hockey, except that a student-athlete who seeks to participate in NCAA Football Championship Subdivision may use this exception only if transferring from a Football Bowl Subdivision program.
The student-athlete may not have transferred previously from another four-year institution unless he or she transferred previously and received an exception to the transfer residence requirement because his or her institution either discontinued the sport or did not sponsor the sport in which the student-athlete is a participant.
The student must have been in good academic standing and eligible to compete had he or she decided to remain at the previous institution.
The student-athlete's previous institution must certify in writing that it has no objection to the student-athlete being granted an exception to the transfer residence requirement.
NOTE: This exception does not apply to a student-athlete who attends a Division III institution for graduate school, unless the student-athlete is attending the same institution at which he or she was an undergraduate.
NOTE: If the student-athlete transfers to the certifying institution from a Division III member institution and meets the above-mentioned conditions, he or she may be eligible to compete but may not receive athletically related financial aid during that year.
Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA academic and membership affairs staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.Onward and Upward!
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Originally posted by shaunguth View PostI guess it's how you define success. For me, it is making the NCAA tournament and having at least some success there. I guess some people would rather have isu's last four years than Bradley's last six years. I would not.
I do believe we HAD a chance next year to win or finish second in the valley, but if Sammy leaves, then those chances are gone. We'll be lucky to get back to Jim Les invitational (The 4/5 game on Friday in the tournament). Even if Taylor can come back, I don't think him and DSE can lead us to a conference title on their own. JP will help as well, but we're still going to be lacking that true point guard that SM would give. DS can play PG, but I don't think he'll be ready to be a starter his Freshman year. DSE can play PG as well, but he's more of a natural SG. WL could play point as well, but nowhere near as well as Sammy. I really hope SM's back next year.
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Originally posted by TheHeemyMonster View PostISU no....... Witchita St, UNI, Creighton perhaps....???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
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Originally posted by Chibearsfan10125 View PostI don't want ISU success, but I would gladly trade our 1 sweet sixteen run for Creighton-like success over the past decade.
I would rather have our last six years than their last four.???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12
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Originally posted by BradleyJD View PostIf he leaves, it's because he decides to. Nothing else.
Sammy - Congrats on graduating from BU (Not enough has been said about these players and their academics) and best of luck whatever you do!
Carl M.... the same applies to his dad. Thank you for everything you have done!It's not Business, It's Personal
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