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  • #31
    Originally posted by SFP View Post
    Larry Brown is on my short list. Last I heard he was looking for a job!

    In reality I'd take him for the next 2 years over just about anyone. He would be worth the dollars spent on multiple levels. It's just never going to happen but there needs to be a bit of thinking outside of the box for this hire to make sense to me.
    While I agree and like the way you think, I am coming back to reality with the fact that we couldn't afford him.
    Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

    ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Beninator View Post
      While I agree and like the way you think, I am coming back to reality with the fact that we couldn't afford him.
      That is why I put "never going to happen."

      If we are tied down due to budget and what we can afford, I'm betting we will all be disappointed when this process is completed. I'm hoping there is a big time donor or two out there who is willing to write the check.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by SFP View Post
        That is why I put "never going to happen."

        If we are tied down due to budget and what we can afford, I'm betting we will all be disappointed when this process is completed. I'm hoping there is a big time donor or two out there who is willing to write the check.
        Understand the and very much agree!
        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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        • #34
          Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
          Muller
          Lusk
          Gard
          Amaker


          All good candidates, but where is Montgomery at? Anyone from the Izzo tree would probably be a good get...


          That said, why do I get the feeling that it's going to be someone not from this list or even close to it?


          Oh, and reason I didn't mention Cooley or Johnson is because I feel the coach needs some ties to the Midwest
          I respectfully disagree on the Izzo tree aspect. I don't think Tom Crean has lived up to the glitz associated with his name.

          12 seasons as head coach with just 5 NCAA appearances although he's coached in the C-USA, Big East and Big Ten. Should be automatic.

          Overall record of 218-161 (57%)
          Big Ten 8-46 (14%)
          Conference titles in 12 years = ONE
          NCAA record in 5 appearances = 5-5

          And keep in mind that 4 of his 5 wins were in the year D Wade led Marquette to the F4. Crean is 1-4 in the other 4 appearances and has not won a NCAA tourney game SINCE 2003. Those #s make Bruce Weber look good.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
            That would be Mark Montgomery
            Montgomery might want a shot at a head coaching job..but here's my take...
            I think he'll wait 'til a BCS offer comes along...and here's why........

            1) Tom Izzo makes more than $3 mil per year and just turned down $6 mil to coach the Cavaliers, and it is rumored that his top assistants already make way, way more than BU would pay for the next head coach.

            2) if he took at mid-major job - and a step down in salary - just to get a start-up shot at a head coaching position, and did poorly (check Tim Jankovich), then his shot at going back to a BCS spot is toast.

            3) Just last year, when Tod Kowalczyk bolted from UW-GB and took $280,000 per year at Toledo -- Green Bay went after Montgomery...
            (they also tried to woo Greg Gard) ...and both didn't even go for an interview...
            At that time...it was also reported that Gard also turned down the Toledo job because he was already making more (recall that Kowalczyk got $280K) than Toledo was offering!

            So I have to think if we want an assistant from a TOP BCS program, we are not going to get anyone's top assistant who's already getting $250K or more..
            In the end -- it didn't hurt UW-GB to ask, but you can see who they settled for --
            Brian Wardle -- the youngest head coach in D-I basketball -- a guy who was just promoted from his Green Bay assistant spot of 5 years.
            He was the guy willing to take the amount offered by UW-GB...

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            • #36
              http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6189498

              Pat Knight looks to be available. I'm just sayin.........

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                Montgomery might want a shot at a head coaching job..but here's my take...
                I think he'll wait 'til a BCS offer comes along...and here's why........

                1) Tom Izzo makes more than $3 mil per year and just turned down $6 mil to coach the Cavaliers, and it is rumored that his top assistants already make way, way more than BU would pay for the next head coach.

                2) if he took at mid-major job - and a step down in salary - just to get a start-up shot at a head coaching position, and did poorly (check Tim Jankovich), then his shot at going back to a BCS spot is toast.

                3) Just last year, when Tod Kowalczyk bolted from UW-GB and took $280,000 per year at Toledo -- Green Bay went after Montgomery...
                (they also tried to woo Greg Gard) ...and both didn't even go for an interview...
                At that time...it was also reported that Gard also turned down the Toledo job because he was already making more (recall that Kowalczyk got $280K) than Toledo was offering!

                So I have to think if we want an assistant from a TOP BCS program, we are not going to get anyone's top assistant who's already getting $250K or more..
                In the end -- it didn't hurt UW-GB to ask, but you can see who they settled for --
                Brian Wardle -- the youngest head coach in D-I basketball -- a guy who was just promoted from his Green Bay assistant spot of 5 years.
                He was the guy willing to take the amount offered by UW-GB...
                If that is the case, and I have no reason to doubt anything stated here, then we are in for a long ride for the next few years. If JG does not want to commit more than that type of salary for a division 1 men's basketball coach, then we will get what we pay for!

                Time to commit to the program JG, or the results spotlight will be entirely on you!
                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                • #38
                  T - What you stated is what scares me if our Admin did not go out and get a commitment from some donors to pony up a large series of donations to pay the next coach. I've seen it before but I've never known BU high rollers to indicate that they would pull such a move. You would know better then most.
                  "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                  ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                  • #39
                    What are you talking about?

                    He beat Kentucky in the tournament the last year he was at Marquette and he put together two of the best recruiting classes I can recall in landing Wade, Henry, and Diener and then following that up with James, McNeal, and Matthews who took a team that was supposed to finish 12th, all the way to 4th place...

                    You can't possibly compare standing places from the Valley to the Big East and the Indiana program was an absolute mess to clean up...


                    At Marquette attendance increased by 70% and they won more games in his first 5 years there than they won under Al McGuire...


                    This isn't even about Crean but man, we'd be lucky to have someone of his caliber!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SFP View Post
                      T - What you stated is what scares me if our Admin did not go out and get a commitment from some donors to pony up a large series of donations to pay the next coach. I've seen it before but I've never known BU high rollers to indicate that they would pull such a move. You would know better then most.
                      +1
                      Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                      ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SFP View Post
                        T - What you stated is what scares me if our Admin did not go out and get a commitment from some donors to pony up ....
                        let's come down to earth...
                        we are talking Bradley ..not UK, IU, Duke, or Oregon

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                        • #42
                          The Harvard coach, the UofI assistants and Hinson intrigue me the most, Amaker being my favorite.

                          And this is an honest question. I've been laughed off of boards and been accused of being a troll when asking about Wayne MacClaine. Why is this? Why Jerrance Howard, who I do like a lot, over Wayne?

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                          • #43
                            Some used Wayne's name to be divisive in the past, and nobody wants to repeat it.
                            Seems no other school wants Wayne
                            He wasn't great at recruiting non-Peoria guys to UIUC (thus the Jerrance hire)..

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                            • #44
                              Wayne's time may have come and gone. He does not even do the recruiting at U of I, and we need an aggressive recruiter. There are a number of other reasons, but just consider why he hasn't gotten any interviews or offers since he was up for the Bradley job. I doubt Jerrance Howard will go for the next 9 years without so much as another offer or interview.

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                              • #45
                                Thanks ph and Coach, I a haven't been paying attention to Les replacement candidates since
                                A. I didn't think this season would turn out like this at the beginning
                                B. Full course load at Bradley plus playing in two bands and writing for The Scout doesn't leave me enough time to scout coaches lol

                                thanks again!

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