Wish List - Our Next Coach

[srw]

I am sure buyout agreements differ, but almost always if the agreement involves payments (partial or full) spread out over years, then it would also include an exclusion that would reduce the payments by whatever he would earn in any new job.

OTOH, if a buyout is settled with a 1-time payment, usually the coach is free to take another job any time.

Da Coach...I agree with you completely on this statement, although I don't believe Mo's deal had a reduction clause

From a BU perspective, they should want to do something that allows them to play less than what is due, while encouraging JL to make money.

ie. if you stay in the college game, we take 30% of your yearly amount so he wants to work.

Also Coach Les is very talented. I doubt by law, that BU can take money away from him if he went back into the financial services arena, or say for a company like OSF

[Da Coach]

Da Coach...I agree with you completely on this statement, although I don't believe Mo's deal had a reduction clause

From a BU perspective, they should want to do something that allows them to play less than what is due, while encouraging JL to make money.

ie. if you stay in the college game, we take 30% of your yearly amount so he wants to work.

Also Coach Les is very talented. I doubt by law, that BU can take money away from him if he went back into the financial services arena, or say for a company like OSF

Regarding Mo's contract- others here may confirm this, but he did have a termination agreement that would reduce his pay by whatever he would earn in another coaching job. He told people this. That's why he did not work for 2 years, and never sought or interviewed for another job during that time. Then he did take a non-coaching job as a scout for the Toronto Raptors.

[Buesch N Chips]

I don't know anything about anything outside of BU and Illini. Most of these names in these threads could be my pizza guy and I wouldn't know the difference.

[BSSFan#1]

In 2003, Butler went to the sweet 16 with a senior laden roster. In 2003-2004, Butler had a highly touted recruiting class that essentially flopped. A lot of "me" guys. After two years, that class transfered and it was addition by subtraction.

In 2005-06, Lickliter took a team that essentially went 7 deep and didn't have a ton of talent to the NIT. Then took Butler to the sweet 16 the next season.

If you ask me, Lickliter learned something from that class. Recruiting talent isn't everything. You have to recruit a team.

The guy is a good coach. I have no doubt about that.

I think you actually enhanced my point with your information.

As far as that "talent isn't everything" approach, Lickliter tried that at Iowa.
Iowa record as follows:
13-19 (6-12)
15-16 (5-13)
10-22 (4-14)

[Braveman]

You might want to look up judsons record as head coach at NIU in the new arena before you bring him in here?

I did.. he was 74-101 at NIU, but did manage a 1st and 4th place finish

and if you add his assistant coaching experiences, at Illinois, Bradley, NIU and Illinois State, he is either head coach or top assistant with a record of 383-188...

Also add in that he himself was an academic All-American, is from the state and well-versed in the Valley and Illinois, the respect of his colleagues, His recruiting acumen, and his integrity, and yes, I would say he would be a good choice...

[Braveman]

I agree , do any of these posters do any research before giving us names like Judson, Giacoletti and some of these other coaches that have not done well in the past, also we need to stick with a asst. that has been in the midwest for awhile so he can recruit this area.

Judson has been nowhere but the Midwest, was 74-101 at NIU, but did manage a 1st and 4th place finish, and if you add his assistant coaching experiences, at Illinois, Bradley, NIU and Illinois State, he is either head coach or top assistant with a record of 383-188...

Also add in that he himself was an academic All-American, is from the state and well-versed in the Valley and Illinois, the respect of his colleagues, His recruiting acumen, and his integrity, and yes, I would say he would be a good choice...

[Big Mike]

I did.. he was 74-101 at NIU, but did manage a 1st and 4th place finish

and if you add his assistant coaching experiences, at Illinois, Bradley, NIU and Illinois State, he is either head coach or top assistant with a record of 383-188...

Also add in that he himself was an academic All-American, is from the state and well-versed in the Valley and Illinois, the respect of his colleagues, His recruiting acumen, and his integrity, and yes, I would say he would be a good choice...

Pass on this one for me!

[AZ BU Fan]

Monday March 7 Update:

I have combed the various threads discussing future coaches at BU. Here is an unscientific list that totals the number of posts recommending various candidates. There is probably some dupliction since some posters mention the same guy in different posts (I am too lazy to cross reference the poster with the recommendation, sue me!)...

Note: I didn't enter -1's for any candidate someone thought absolutely shouldn't be considered/selected.

Todd Lickliter.............. 8
Tommy Ammaker......... 6
Mark Montgomery........ 5
Jerrace Howard........... 4
Wayne McClain........... 4
Dan Muller................. 2
Greg Gard.................. 2
Jerry Sloan................ 2
Larry Brown............... 2
Matthew Graves......... 2
Pat Knight................. 2
Paul Lusk.................. 2
Ray Giocoletti............ 2
Anthony Solomon....... 1
Barry Hinton.............. 1
Bill Carmody.............. 1
Billy Gillispie.............. 1
Butch Pierre............. 1
Cliff Warren.............. 1
Dino Gaudio.............. 1
Eric Spoelstra........... 1
Gary Close............... 1
Kim Anderson........... 1
Matt Zimmerman....... 1
Melvin Watkins......... 1
Pat Flannery............ 1
Rob Judson.............. 1
Rodney Terry........... 1
Shaka Smart............ 1
Sydney Johnson....... 1
Tony Benford........... 1

Doesn't mean all of these are available/interested/affordable, just hoped for.

Will keep updating during the week. Friday pm cut off.

Would be interesting to see which mid major/Div II coaches had the most non con/post season/tourney success vs Valley Teams in the past 5 years. Anyone want to take that research project on?

Another angle, look at teams in Mid Major Conferences which ended up with higher RPI's than the MVC did and look for coaches with best combined conference records at these schools over the past three seasons.

[Bravesfan]

Monday March 7 Update:

Todd Lickliter.............. 8
Tommy Ammaker......... 6
Mark Montgomery........ 5
Jerrace Howard........... 4
Wayne McClain........... 4
Dan Muller................. 2
Greg Gard.................. 2
Jerry Sloan................ 2
Larry Brown............... 2
Matthew Graves......... 2
Pat Knight................. 2
Paul Lusk.................. 2
Ray Giocoletti............ 2
Anthony Solomon....... 1
Barry Hinton.............. 1
Bill Carmody.............. 1
Billy Gillispie.............. 1
Butch Pierre............. 1
Cliff Warren.............. 1
Dino Gaudio.............. 1
Eric Spoelstra........... 1
Gary Close............... 1
Kim Anderson........... 1
Matt Zimmerman....... 1
Melvin Watkins......... 1
Pat Flannery............ 1
Rob Judson.............. 1
Rodney Terry........... 1
Shaka Smart............ 1
Sydney Johnson....... 1
Tony Benford........... 1

Some very good candidates on this list AZ. I don't know how Wayne McClain keeps getting votes, but otherwise anyone of the top 4 and even Hinson would be good choices. I know Hinson got run out of town at MSU because he "couldn't win the big games", supposedly, which we all know is a bunch of bunk since he got shafted out of the Big Dance twice. But he kept his teams in the running for championships most years and couldn't do any worse than many think he could.

Still way too early to pin down who Bradley will be leaning towards, if the future coach is even on this list. But it should be fun trying to keep the hope up that this will be a good hire.

[JBinPeoria]

Thanks for compiling people's nominations. I will not repeat the recommendation I already submitted, but I would like to vote for two more:

Pat Knight (just let go by Texas Tech) and
Pat Kelsey (Associate Head Coach at Xavier)

Honestly, I would like to see Bradley consider more of a national name than some of the local yocals people are talking about that I never heard of. The people I have nominated are known for and respected in the recruiting circles nationally. Plus, decent prospects are trying to get into the best program they can even if that means leading the state. Decent prospects do not care how much success a potential college coach had at Peoria High or wherever. I think the national connections of my nominees would be great for putting Bradley in a position of greater prominance in the basketball world.

You may think my nominees are out of our league (and maybe they are). But I am trying to think of 1) coaches with potential who jumped to the major level before they were ready and need to prove themselves at a mid major, or 2) an excellent assistant ready to make the jump to head coach, but maybe not for a major program just yet.

[Braveman]

Robert Burke, Georgetown: John Thompson III already has had a couple of assistants land jobs, and Burke will be next.
Gary Close, Wisconsin: Close spent 13 years as an assistant at Iowa under Tom Davis and has been with Bo Ryan since 2003. That is a serious hoops education.
Phil Cunningham, Mississippi State: He has been the chief recruiter for the Bulldogs and has landed several top players.
Steve DeMeo, Providence: Tim Welsh's associate head coach is an excellent recruiter and floor coach.
Jerry Dunn, Michigan: Former Penn State coach probably will get another head coaching shot after hanging around the brilliant coaching mind of John Beilein.
Greg Gard, Wisconsin: Gard is the Badgers' recruiting coordinator and has been alongside Ryan for 14 seasons.
Brett Gunning, Villanova: As long as Jay Wright has been a head coach he has had Gunning with him, and that speaks volumes.
Steve Henson, UNLV: The scrappy former point guard for Lon Kruger now coaches alongside him and will lead his own program soon.
Joe Holladay, North Carolina: He's a great recruiter and floor coach who has been with Roy Williams for 14 seasons.
Chris Mack, Xavier: The Musketeers have it rolling under Sean Miller and Mack, a solid recruiter and excellent teacher.
Kevin O'Neill, Arizona: O'Neill has head coaching experience across the board and is a top defensive guru.
Philip Pearson, Alabama: Hired by Mark Gottfried upon his arrival in 1998, Pearson is one of the top recruiters in the Southeast.
Steve Robinson, North Carolina: The former FSU head coach handles the scouting for the Tar Heels and also recruits very well.
Scott Spinelli, Texas A&M: Mark Turgeon brought associate head coach Spinelli with him to Aggieland where they'll face All-Big 12 center Aleks Maric, a player recruited to Nebraska by Spinelli.
Russ Springmann, Texas: Springmann has helped the Longhorns land seven McDonald's All-Americans over the past six seasons.
Melvin Watkins, Missouri: Watkins, associate head coach to Mike Anderson, has plenty of head coaching experience and can recruit with anybody.

[SaintLouBrave22]

How old is that list?

I know for sure Mack is now HC at Xavier and O'Neil is no longer at Arizona as Miller took over there...

The others I'd have to look up

[BSSFan#1]

Hey, Braveman, Kevin O'Neill is the head coach at USC.

[houstonbrave]

Although I kind of liked Barry Hinson when he was at SMS you do not fire Jim Les, pay Jim Les a buyout to get Barry Hinson. That would be insane.

[DeltaBrave03]

I think Lickliter or Hinson would be good hires for BU based on everything I've read here the last day or so. I'm not as "in the loop" as most others seem to be though.

If we're talking attendance numbers, the rivs drew over 9000 for the game featuring the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Jus sayin.....