MVC semifinal- Creighton vs. Missouri State

[Da Coach]

Creighton has a first half lead- 30-25-

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2011-03-05&refresh=60&c=mvc

[Bravesfan]

Keep up the great work Bluejays! Let's try to get two bids from the Valley this year.

[Big Mike]

Wow..this is a good game!

[MacabreMob]

Keep up the great work Bluejays! Let's try to get two bids from the Valley this year.

There is absolutely no chance the MVC gets 2 bids this year. None. 1 bid league no matter who wins the MVC Tourney.

[Bravesfan]

There is absolutely no chance the MVC gets 2 bids this year. None. 1 bid league no matter who wins the MVC Tourney.

I disagree. I think there is always a shot until the bids come out. I want to see how a regular season Valley championship holds up should Missouri St. lose since this could be the first time in four years that the regular season Valley champion fails to win the Valley tournament.

And really, do you put, say Virginia Tech in ahead of Missouri St.? Yes, they beat Duke and Florida, but they also lost a bunch to the bottom third of the ACC. MSU did what they were supposed to do without too many bad losses. In other words, will consistency trump a fluke great win or two? We'll find out next week, but I'm most certainly not ready to rule MSU out of the at-large pool should they lose, just yet.

[Fetz86]

There is absolutely no chance the MVC gets 2 bids this year. None. 1 bid league no matter who wins the MVC Tourney.

I pretty much agree, the only way it happens (and if it does I guess this is the Cubs year too) then Missouri State has to lose to WSU in the final.

[Bravesfan]

I pretty much agree, the only way it happens (and if it does I guess this is the Cubs year too) then Missouri State has to lose to WSU in the final.

It looks like we'll get that chance, providing WSU takes care of business later as I don't see the Sycamores with much of a chance of beating the Bears.

I personally don't care what Joe Lunardi or the other pundits say. I still think MSU has a legitimate shot (as in around 40% or so) to get an at-large bid, even if they get beaten by ISU instead of WSU. But WSU obviously has a much better shot of taking MSU down, and if WSU can't finish the job, they most certainly don't deserve to be in the NCAA Tournament. MSU obviously is the only at-large worthy team out of the Valley this year.

Anyway, good luck in the CBI/CIT Creighton!

[SaintLouBrave22]

Bravesfan-

There's about as good a shot as you creating Bravesfan U and getting a bid as the Valley getting two...

Wichita State would have to jump 7 teams to get into the bubble last 4 and Missouri State has no chance

[TheAsianSensation]

Keep up the great work Bluejays! Let's try to get two bids from the Valley this year.

Not the avenue to 2 bids

[Murph]

Barry who?

[Da Coach]

Barry who?

The Barry that recruited all the stars playing for Cuonzo Martin's team.

[Murph]

The Barry that recruited all the stars playing for Cuonzo Martin's team.

All of them?

[Da Coach]

All of them?

No, not all of them, but the most important one.

Conzo was named coach March 26, 2008.

http://www.wtae.com/r/15713137/detail.html

These are the kids he has recruited-
Keith Pickens- a sophomore who is not playing this season while recovering from an achilles injury
Nafis Ricks- a senior guard who was a juco transfer and is averaging 9.2 ppg.
Aaron Cooper- a freshman who has played in just 14 games and is averaging 0.4 ppg.
Jermaine Mallet- juco transfer averaging 11.2 ppg
Caleb Patterson- transfer from Colorado shortly after Cuonzo Martin became coach- averages 5.7 ppg
Nathan Scheer- freshman averaging 4.1 ppg
Isiah Rhine- sophomore averaging 1.7 ppg
Nick Valla- freshman who has played in just 14 games and averages 0.6 ppg.



These are the players recruited by Barry Hinson-
Kyle Weems- the MVC Player of the Year. Was recruited and signed by Hinson.
Will Creekmore- transferred to Missouri State during Barry Hinson's final season there.


Adam Leonard- This one can be debated- He left Eastern Kentucky on March 28, 2008, 2 days after Martin was hired, but reports say he had considered leaving EKU for some time.

http://www.wkyt.com/sports/headlines/17128716.html

He then enrolled at MSU a short time later.
It has been said by some that Hinson had contact with him before he was fired, but since he actually transferred shortly after Martin was named the new coach, Martin gets the credit.

But where would Missouri State have finished this year without Creekmore and Weems?

[Murph]

But where would Missouri State have finished this year without Creekmore and Weems?

Not where they finished this year if Barry was still the coach.

Good job MSU by not being afraid to fire Barry and move on to bigger and better things.

[Tulsa Brave]

[QUOTE=Bravesfan;218756And really, do you put, say Virginia Tech in ahead of Missouri St.? Yes, they beat Duke and Florida, but they also lost a bunch to the bottom third of the ACC..[/QUOTE]


Is this a serious question? I put Virginia Tech WAY ahead of Missouri State...it's not even remotely close. What did MSU do in the non-conference to even sniff a bid. Outside of 2 wins against WSU, what have they done at all? Do 2 wins over WSU come anywhere close to matching wins over Duke and Florida? Does MSU have any other top 100 wins? I don't think so.

MSU was a double digit loser to Tulsa, Oklahoma State, and Valparaiso...3 other teams that won't sniff the dance without winning their conference tourneys. Virginia Tech even beat 1 of those 3 MSU lost to, not that any of them would have been great wins...