Andrew Warren is MVC PLayer of the Week AGAIN!

[Missouri Brave]

DC, you are incorrect, my friend. I appreciate the passion but it's time for me to set the record straight and put this baby to bed. Here's the facts.

1974: Bird enrolls at Indiana but leaves after three weeks to go back to Terre Haute.

1976-77: Bird enrolls at InSU and plays his SOPHOMORE season.

1977-78: Bird plays JUNIOR season

1978: After Bird's JUNIOR season of 1977-78, the Celtics draft Bird, knowing that they retain his rights for 365 days i.e. even if he returns for his senior year of 1978-79, Boston will be able to negotiate with him up until the 1979 NBA Draft.

1978-79: Bird plays SENIOR year, leading InSU to NCAA runner-up.

From Wikipedia: "...he led the team to the NCAA championship game in 1979, his SENIOR season, only to lose to the Michigan State University Spartans..."

More from Wikipedia: "...The Boston Celtics selected the 6'9", 220-pound Bird 6th overall in the 1978 NBA Draft, even though they were uncertain whether he would enter the NBA or remain at Indiana State to play his SENIOR season. Bird ultimately decided to play his final college season, but the Celtics retained their exclusive right to sign him until the 1979 NBA Draft, because of the NBA's "junior eligible" rule that existed at that time (allowing a collegiate player to be drafted when the player's original "entering" class was graduating and giving them ONE CALENDAR YEAR TO SIGN THEM, even if they went back to college)."

[LittleBrave]

Pretty good battle going on here between you two!

[Missouri Brave]

I'm bored, to be honest...think I'll go back to one of those previous threads where people get abused for having the gall to suggest that BU should be expected to finish in the top three of the MVC at least once or twice every 8-9 years.

[LittleBrave]

I'm bored, to be honest...think I'll go back to one of those previous threads where people get abused for having the gall to suggest that BU should be expected to finish in the top three of the MVC at least once or twice every 8-9 years.

You can't do that, MB! Les hasn't finished top 3 ever, so we shouldn't expect that from him all of a sudden...right??? You need to wait until he actually does it, and then base your expectations accordingly!

But, by all means, go ahead and take the abuse on other threads...if you're bored.

[Missouri Brave]

You the man, LB!

[real fan]

Nice job Drew!!
Congrats..

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=205105735

AW's 33 points Saturday night were the most scored by any D-I player on his senior night,
and he is the ONLY player in the entire nation to have a game of 30 points, 10 rebs, 5 assists, and 4 steals
(30/10/5/4)

If there ever was a player from a 9th place team who deserved the Player of the Year Award in the MVC it IS Andrew Warren!!!
Also -- one more accolade -- Andrew Warren is ONLY the third player in all of MVC history (one of the others was Hersey Hawkins) to lead the Valley in BOTH free throws made and 3 pointers made.

Odum was NOW

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/notes/mvc.pdf

One other trivia question...
Doug McDermott currently has 443 points.....who is the ONLY freshman in the past 50 years in the MVC to score more than 520 points in his freshman year? (not Hersey -- he had 439)

A.Warren should be player of the year just because of all the attention the opposing teams give him trying to stop him from scoring, no one else commands that much attention , Weems is a heck of a player but has a better supporting cast which is why MO.ST. won the league, I realize they never give the league MVP to a player on the last place team but if there never has been a more deserving one then Andrew and his stats back it up.

[thefish7]

Great job, Drew! Well deserved.

[jasonpeoria911]

In this unusual year, Warren might of won the Valley MVP on a last place team, but I think the voters will look at his stats and Weems stats in the 2 games we played them. Warren is 1st in all major stats in the Valley this season but Weems totally schooled Warren in head to head live matchups.

1st game-

Weems shot 12-14 for 27 points, 7 boards and 4 assists
Warren shot 8-18 for 21 points, 2 boards and 1 assist

2nd game-

Weems shot 7-10 for 27 points, 6 boards and 0 assists
Warren shot 5-16 for 12 points, 3 boards and 3 assists

Jason

[mrcoachdude]

In this unusual year, Warren might of won the Valley MVP on a last place team, but I think the voters will look at his stats and Weems stats in the 2 games we played them. Warren is 1st in all major stats in the Valley this season but Weems totally schooled Warren in head to head live matchups.

1st game-

Weems shot 12-14 for 27 points, 7 boards and 4 assists
Warren shot 8-18 for 21 points, 2 boards and 1 assist

2nd game-

Weems shot 7-10 for 27 points, 6 boards and 0 assists
Warren shot 5-16 for 12 points, 3 boards and 3 assists

Jason

They guarded each other?

[tornado]

I thought some might find this interesting...
it is a comment by Dallas Brave from summer of 2006 before Andrew Warren ever set foot on Bradley's campus...

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=6168&postcount=20

[Garland 22]

Question here would be:

Would Andrew Warren have put up those numbers if Brown and Sammy were healthy?

Would Kyle Weems or Kwadzo Ahlegbe put up better numbers on Bradley this year?

What would Andrew's numbers been if he had played for WSU or MSU?

Great year for Andrew, he is awesome, I'm not taking anything away from him, but giving the POY to someone on the worst team is like giving the Miss America crown to the best looking girl at the Elbow Room. Which on some nights is me, and I'm not a girl.

Andrew deserves any accolades he gets, but somewhat homerish to suggest he is the league's best player.

[Da Coach]

Your comparison is invalid. You may be the best looking girl in the Elbow room, but your looks don't compare with Miss America contestants. OTOH, Andrew's points and performances were achieved playing against the same schedule and teams as Weems or anyone else in the MVC.

I also think AW's chances of POY would have been even betrter if TB and SM had played, since clearly the only thing many voters had against him was playing for a team finishing at the bottom of the league. With a healthy team, Bradley would have been a contender, and AW would be POY (unless TB or SM are).

[tornado]

.. Andrew's points and performances were achieved playing against the same schedule and teams as Weems or anyone else in the MVC.
..

actually no -- the bottom teams face few of the bottom teams and the top teams face few of the top teams simply because no team has to play itself..
so AW's conference strength of schedule was tougher than Weems'