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  • #76
    Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
    Great post braveatheart!
    Ditto!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by braveatheart View Post
      Let me add a couple more.

      - Les graduates kids. And good kids. The two that leave this year can make
      any BU graduate proud.

      - Les helped get those facilities built.

      - We will only have one Juco on the roster next year and he will be a three
      year guy. We also have a couple of volintary red shirts. Both these things
      indicate we are not just plugging holes in the dike, but rather building for
      the long term.

      - We have a roster full of big men for the first time I can remember.

      I can think of a few more negatives too but that is besides the point as I really doubt BU eats $1,200,000 left on the contract. If they have that kind of money, they don't need my donation every year.

      If Les hadn't started winning again this month, I think it is a totally different story.
      All excellent points
      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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      • #78
        Originally posted by braveatheart View Post
        Let me add a couple more.

        - Les graduates kids. And good kids. The two that leave this year can make
        any BU graduate proud.

        - Les helped get those facilities built.

        - We will only have one Juco on the roster next year and he will be a three
        year guy. We also have a couple of volintary red shirts. Both these things
        indicate we are not just plugging holes in the dike, but rather building for
        the long term.

        - We have a roster full of big men for the first time I can remember.

        I can think of a few more negatives too but that is besides the point as I really doubt BU eats $1,200,000 left on the contract. If they have that kind of money, they don't need my donation every year.

        If Les hadn't started winning again this month, I think it is a totally different story.
        Great post but there are a few that would rather have wins then great young men that graduate.

        I also agree I doubt that BU eats the contract (have heard that from those that give lots of money also-for what that is worth) along w/ the fact they just brought in all new asst. (they even help coach-saw WS talking to WLjr and Coach P taking kids aside and explaining things to them-this hasn't been done by the ass't for a few years now)

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        • #79
          Bring coach back. I think he deserves it. As strange as it may sound I think things are headed in the right direction.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            I checked but the Pantagraph doesn't have a column where the beat writer confronts Jank with multiple questions whether he's going to get fired or be back next year....with subsequent numerous speculations about what would happen if......and maybe he'd be replaced by....

            Gotta remember, they finished last with their whole team healthy often putting up 40's and low 50's on the scoreboard
            Maybe because the Pantagraph's writers, and ISU fans struggle with the following:

            Apathy is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion.

            Bradley basketball is "the" game in town, and has been for many years, while ISU basketball isn't.
            ???We all want Bradley to win. If our methods and visions for that are different, then so be it. Don't ever attempt to tell me I am not a fan!???

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            • #81
              Originally posted by basketball nut View Post
              Great post but there are a few that would rather have wins then great young men that graduate.
              I would certainly hope not.

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              • #82
                Pretty interesting read about Lowery in todays The Southern:

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
                  Pretty interesting read about Lowery in todays The Southern:

                  http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loca...cc4c03286.html
                  Sad, but not surprising. It is so hard, especially at the mid-major level, to be very successful for a long time.

                  If you leave at the pinnacle, people say you quit on them. If you stay too long, you risk being let go if you slip.
                  When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
                    Pretty interesting read about Lowery in todays The Southern:

                    http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loca...cc4c03286.html
                    Lowery's contract being bought out by "corporate donors" -- NOT by the university...hmmm.....
                    I am assuming that without the corporate donors' actions the university simply couldn't and wouldn't be able to do a thing...
                    how dare those uppity corporate donors from thinking they are more powerful than they really are...
                    How dare them doing this without asking the message board posters what they should do!

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                    • #85
                      There is no buyout clause in the deal, only what the university would have to pay the 38-year-old if he was fired, which would be the full remainder of the contract. As of today, that amounts to more than $2.25 million. If Lowery were to resign, he would actually have to pay the university $250,000.


                      I thought someone here told us all contracts have "buyout" clauses?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post



                        I thought someone here told us all contracts have "buyout" clauses?
                        I wouldn't think they would. However, I would think you might want to have one.

                        The interesting thing on Lowery's deal was that he had to pay a "fine" or "fee" if he left early on his end.
                        When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                        • #87
                          I could see why a school would want some protection against leaving for a better school or another job like an analyst.I think that is a typical clause, although it is now hurting SIU's chances of letting Lowery go.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
                            Pretty interesting read about Lowery in todays The Southern:

                            http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loca...cc4c03286.html
                            Not surprising. He is 3-4 years removed from NCAA success. He hasn't really built off of that, I can understand fans wanting him out and the school taking a long, hard look at the program.
                            Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by bigdaddystuck View Post
                              Not surprising. He is 3-4 years removed from NCAA success. He hasn't really built off of that, I can understand fans wanting him out and the school taking a long, hard look at the program.
                              hottest rumor is that they will bring back their assistant Rodney Watson who moved on to coach Southern Indiana -- many fans want Rodney back -- but he is likely to coach the same as Lowery and other fans kinda even hang some of the current blame on Watson since he's part of the reason they're where they are at..

                              If it's not Watson --and note CLo is still head coach so this is all speculation -- I think in their current financial mess they are DEFINITELY NOT going to be able to offer Chris-Lowery-type money to anyone even if they had a shot at Bobby Knight or Billy Gillispie.
                              So....that means starting over by hiring someone in the $200K range like a Creighton assistant or DePaul assistant.....
                              Some Saluki fans are hoping Jerrance Howard would be interested.........we'll see.....

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                              • #90
                                I haven't read this whole thread but here is my outsiders perspective.

                                Dave Reynolds job is to write articles to inform the public on what they want to hear with facts (or what he thinks the public wants to hear). With this piece, he is showing the viewing public that he asked the questions that they want answers to.

                                His secondary job is the get readers to the PJ Star. Some may view it as slimy or unethical, but facts are facts- contraversy attracks readers. Looks at this thread alone. Over 2,500 views. Those views of this thread lead to hits on the PJ Star's website. Hits=ad $$ to the paper.

                                Dave is making his bosses happy...

                                Just my opinion...

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