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  • #46
    Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
    Talented core vs dwindling attendance. Sounds eerily similar to Coach Mo's last year. It is unfortunate that it has come to that again.
    I thought the attendance at the end of the season was pretty good for a guaranteed last place team! In fact, it was about 3,000 more than isu had for their Senior night game as well as being the annual BU game.
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • #47
      Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
      Wasn't Dave Reynolds voted Illinois Sports Writer of the Year or something? I think he knows what he's doing.
      I most definitely agree with this.
      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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      • #48
        Originally posted by bradleyjd View Post
        again, the entire peoria area is talking about jl and whether he will be back.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
          s------t------r------e------t------c--------h
          How so?
          When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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          • #50
            As someone who was a journalist for a long time, I admire the work of Dave Reynolds. Think he does an outstanding job and is objective. A consummate professional in my view. I think that BU fans are fortunate that someone as conscientious as Dave is on the beat, covering BU.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
              The timing of the article is perfect. The paper is not responsible for getting the team ready for the Valley tournament.
              I also have no problem with the timing (as so many others seem to have). As I said before, my problem was with the lack of content. How hard would it to have been to have asked the right questions of the right people. IMO, Reynolds took the easy and lazy approach with this article. As a result, he really gave the reader nothing of any substance.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                The timing of the article is perfect. The paper is not responsible for getting the team ready for the Valley tournament. The timing has to do with a couple of things...

                1. Again, the entire Peoria area is talking about JL and whether he will be back.

                2. It's the end of the season. Yes, the tourney has yet to be played, but with the last home game finished, and with DR having an opportunity to question him Jim it makes sense.

                Again, Jim handled the questions well. His focus should and is on the tournament.

                Dave also handled it well. He knows its a hot-button issue in the community and attempted to address it as well.

                I guess we disagree on this because of your second point JD...the season isn't over....what if we win the tournament?....in my opinion DR looks pretty bad then.....there is absolutely no rush in doing this article. Sure people are asking questions but I don't think anybody expects an answer until the season is officially over...

                I'm trying to see what purpose the article served....and I don't see it. And I'm one that typically sticks up for the paper too.

                I DO agree that JL handled it well......actually I wouldn't have blamed him for going off on DR...with a tournament still to play

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                  I also have no problem with the timing (as so many others seem to have). As I said before, my problem was with the lack of content. How hard would it to have been to have asked the right questions of the right people. IMO, Reynolds took the easy and lazy approach with this article. As a result, he really gave the reader nothing of any substance.
                  what if we win the tournament?....

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by lefty View Post
                    I guess we disagree on this because of your second point JD...the season isn't over....what if we win the tournament?....in my opinion DR looks pretty bad then.....there is absolutely no rush in doing this article. Sure people are asking questions but I don't think anybody expects an answer until the season is officially over...

                    I'm trying to see what purpose the article served....and I don't see it. And I'm one that typically sticks up for the paper too.

                    I DO agree that JL handled it well......actually I wouldn't have blamed him for going off on DR...with a tournament still to play
                    Lefty....I said it was the end of the season. Meaning we are coming to the end. Obviously I know the season is not over yet.

                    I don't think DR looks bad if Jim wins the tourney. It means he asked a relevant question when the time called for it.

                    Should a reporter only talk about a President when they leave office? Can't you question him anytime?
                    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by lefty View Post
                      what if we win the tournament?....
                      To me that is irrelevant. If the powers that be have made a decision then they should stick with it. And, if they've asked the PJS not to report anything then the PJS should not print articles like Reynold's. IMO, that article is garbage since it contains NOTHING. Reynolds could have just added that BU officials had "no comment". Then, his story is complete. Wessler had the right to print what he did because it was an editorial. That's a completely different standard of journalism.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                        Lefty....I said it was the end of the season. Meaning we are coming to the end. Obviously I know the season is not over yet.

                        I don't think DR looks bad if Jim wins the tourney. It means he asked a relevant question when the time called for it.

                        Should a reporter only talk about a President when they leave office? Can't you question him anytime?

                        when you think about it though...what is JL going to say? "Yeah Dave your right...when we lose this week i'm getting canned"....

                        I mean JL has been tight lipped about most everything about the program...why would he talk about his job status before the season is officially over? There wasn't anything really said that couldn't have waited a week. We have a tournament to prepare for.

                        I guess I just think that these are questions for a coach when the season is officilaly over

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                        • #57
                          Some context for those who think it might be early/premature, consider this occurred on the same day Georgia State fired their coach, and will enter the CAA Tournament with an interim coach.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by lefty View Post
                            I guess I just think that these are questions for a coach when the season is officilaly over
                            I have no problem with that either. But it was suggested earlier that this was part of a continued nefarious plan by the PJStar.
                            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                              To me that is irrelevant. If the powers that be have made a decision then they should stick with it. And, if they've asked the PJS not to report anything then the PJS should not print articles like Reynold's. IMO, that article is garbage since it contains NOTHING. Reynolds could have just added that BU officials had "no comment". Then, his story is complete. Wessler had the right to print what he did because it was an editorial. That's a completely different standard of journalism.
                              well if that decision has been made then I agree with you....and you have a pre-curser to what happens next week.....but if BU would happen to win the tourney....it would make things interesting for sure....and I don't think we will but there is always a chance

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                                Lefty....I said it was the end of the season. Meaning we are coming to the end. Obviously I know the season is not over yet.

                                I don't think DR looks bad if Jim wins the tourney. It means he asked a relevant question when the time called for it.

                                Should a reporter only talk about a President when they leave office? Can't you question him anytime?
                                Certainly you can ask questions...but the issue here is that DR's article only provided a partial snapshot of the situation instead of trying for the entire picture.

                                and I agree that the timing is a little off for this article as well....
                                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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