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    DC---You are once again quite wrong, IMO. Without change, businesses would never change CEOs or Management, Senators & Congressmen would never change, our laws would always remain unchanged, our constitution would have no amendments, we wouldn't change Presidents, Coaches, etc., etc.

    Change is enevitable throughout our society including athletics. While change does not always work out well, it works out fine most of the time and without any change, we wouldn't make much progress. Old airplanes & cars, no new roads, no new discoveries that change the old way of doing things. Without change, BU would still be playing in Roberson FH and our campus would look like it did in the 1920s.

    Sure there is some risk but to be afraid of making change simply because there is some risk is very wrong. BU needs change IMO.

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    At a minimum, we at least need a change in luck regarding injuries...

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    • #3
      Change is inevitable, but there is a lot at stake with the guy. I wish his record was better, I wish injuries did not bite this team in the behind---but he certainly has a figure of raising a lot of dough. It's a quandary. If the donations started drying up, or the BSS started to wither on the vine, then change would become immediate.

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      • #4
        wizard- if you or other posters have a comment or question you wish to direct to me personally, that is what the PM feature is for. We prefer for posts not to be used for directly questioning or challenging other posters you have an issue with.

        However, I have made my stance quite clear. Change just for the sake of change is futile. There is no guarantee that change will prove more successful, and I have pointed out that such examples of change resulting in no improvement outnumber cases where such change was successful.

        I have no problem with change, but to change without thoughtful consideration of all the factors is not wise. But I respect anyone else's right to their opinion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          I have pointed out that such examples of change resulting in no improvement outnumber cases where such change was successful.
          I appreciate your stance on this. But let's not say something as outlandish as this. You haven't proven that. You've looked at about 5-10 anecdotal examples and tried to break them down to fit an argument. Acting like there has been a statistical study on this is off base.

          Some work. Some don't. End of story.

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          • #6
            It really comes down to this.

            Many of us believe JL is failing or close to it, as mens basketball coach.

            Many of us believe he is not failing, or is failing due to injuries..

            In a week or so, the BU administration will, or will not, be heard.

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            • #7
              I'm not going to speak on the original post as I feel I have beaten that one to death myself...

              Ok, here's a big question...


              For those who want Jim around next season...

              Say Sam and Taylor return and are 100%


              We finish 8-10 in the league and 6th place or even 5th...and maybe 16 wins or 17...so say 17-14 and 8-10 and lose the 8:35 game in the tournament....


              Will Les have done enough to come back for 2012-13?

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              • #8
                First- I don't think we will be 8-10. We will be far better.

                And, 8-10 would be underachieving.

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                • #9
                  "Will Les have done enough to come back for 2012-13?"

                  No, your description would not constitute "enough" in my opinion. That being said, I want Jim back next year. My bet would is on that group achieving a whole lot more than that.
                  Compete. Defend. Rebound. Win.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                    I'm not going to speak on the original post as I feel I have beaten that one to death myself...

                    Ok, here's a big question...


                    For those who want Jim around next season...

                    Say Sam and Taylor return and are 100%


                    We finish 8-10 in the league and 6th place or even 5th...and maybe 16 wins or 17...so say 17-14 and 8-10 and lose the 8:35 game in the tournament....


                    Will Les have done enough to come back for 2012-13?
                    I truly haven't decided if I want JL back or not, which is knid of nice, because I can be happy either way . But if he is retained and that is all the group achieves, then I am sure it's time to let him move on.

                    I think for him to stay we need to be in the 12+ conference wins range, or 10-11 and 'on the bubble' or off the bubble and a tourney win. For me at least.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                      I'm not going to speak on the original post as I feel I have beaten that one to death myself...

                      Ok, here's a big question...


                      For those who want Jim around next season...

                      Say Sam and Taylor return and are 100%


                      We finish 8-10 in the league and 6th place or even 5th...and maybe 16 wins or 17...so say 17-14 and 8-10 and lose the 8:35 game in the tournament....


                      Will Les have done enough to come back for 2012-13?
                      From what Cross has said, I would say, "No way." as this is not considered competing for a league title.

                      I don't even think that 10-8 would be enough - I think if everyone is healthy next season, we have the most talent since the 2007 season.

                      Maybe I'll get grilled for this, but I think that if DSE, WL, JP, RA remain as Braves until their senior season, we will think of them as guys with really good careers for BU, and yes, I mean really good as in Sammy-good. Not saying they're all going to peak at the same time, but I expect DSE to carry a big load next season, as he's doing right now.

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                      • #12
                        Oops! Maybe I wasn't supposed to answer that question StL Brave!
                        Though I'm a little fickle about whether I want him to stay.

                        But if next season, we don't play consistently well (regardless of injuries), I won't have a little soft spot for someone.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                          I think for him to stay we need to be in the 12+ conference wins range, or 10-11 and 'on the bubble' or off the bubble and a tourney win. For me at least.
                          I think you can pretty much count out being 11-7 in our conference and "on the bubble"
                          14-4 in the Valley this season won't even get you "on the bubble".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                            From what Cross has said, I would say, "No way." as this is not considered competing for a league title.

                            I don't even think that 10-8 would be enough - I think if everyone is healthy next season, we have the most talent since the 2007 season.

                            Maybe I'll get grilled for this, but I think that if DSE, WL, JP, RA remain as Braves until their senior season, we will think of them as guys with really good careers for BU, and yes, I mean really good as in Sammy-good. Not saying they're all going to peak at the same time, but I expect DSE to carry a big load next season, as he's doing right now.
                            I to am optimistic about those guys. But then I think about our S16 team that started 5 future pros and had another 4 on the bench, and wonder if we have enough...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              First- I don't think we will be 8-10. We will be far better.

                              And, 8-10 would be underachieving.
                              Agreed on both counts.

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