6 positive thoughts about the game last night

[SaintLouBrave22]

You do realize that the people you're speaking to don't exist right?!


Or at least not on this board...


Because pretty much anyone who comes on this board is a pretty good fan, or we just really enjoy misery, as I can't recall people just randomly watching games and posting for no reason whatsoever...


So it's almost as though you're talking to a wall...


Yeah maybe I am happy the season is almost over, but heck, out of all the posters, I can venture that 70% are as well if not more!

Doesn't make anyone any less of a fan...


I'll say it again and go back to the "what is a fan" argument...


That's for a person to decide themselves as you telling me whether I'm a fan or not is about as asinine as you coaching a team of mine...

[electricmayhem]

STL - I'm not sure if that was aimed at me, but I'll respond anyway.

You are right. Nobody should tell anyone else what a fan is. However, I am entitled to my opinion.

I am not happy the season is over. BU hoops brings me great joy to watch, regardless of the outcome. Would I prefer to see a winning team? Of course. But there are a lot bigger things in my world than whether or not we win. I have a job to go to every day. I have a beautiful wife and the best son anyone could ask for. I have a house to come home to. I have been blessed with a great life. I can't spend my whole life worrying about what happens with this program.

Yes, a lot of people take it a lot more seriously than I do, and that is their right. As a lifelong fan of the White Sox and Bulls, and an alum and fan of BU, I would never turn my back on the program. Never. If some do, so be it. I just don't think that if you are a true fan of a program, you run when times are bad. I think you help any way you can... and all I can do is offer positivity and encouragement.

As I said in the article, it seems everyone likes being negative just to drum up a reaction... and it works... and people will keep doing it. Pardon me if I'm not one of those - I just choose to see the positive in life. I'm not so dumb as to believe that negative things exist - I just choose not to dwell on them.

I like JL as a person, as a fundraiser, as a representative of my alma mater, and as a coach of young men who turn into solid citizens. Many will question his game coaching, which is all that matters to most. Fine... question what you want... just don't turn your back on something you love.

I'm done now.

[tornado]

You do realize that the people you're speaking to don't exist right?!.....

what?? sure they do -- and there's plenty of them....I cut and pasted that quote from this morning on BradleyFans...

other fans clearly believe it is all about themselves...they only care when they don't see enough wins to make them happy...
I am all for the team and the players....I hurt when they lose but I don't want to always slam someone as the guy to blame.....
I know there's a chance the negative nellies may get some sympathy from higher up and may get their way...
but oddly I feel we'll be right back having this discussion again in a few years, just like many of those same people were when they wanted Mo out...and like the same ISU fans who wanted Porter out and now aren't too sure they're happy with Jank

[mrcoachdude]

STL - I'm not sure if that was aimed at me, but I'll respond anyway.

You are right. Nobody should tell anyone else what a fan is. However, I am entitled to my opinion.

I am not happy the season is over BU hoops brings me great joy to watch, regardless of the outcome. Would I prefer to see a winning team? Of course. But there are a lot bigger things in my world than whether or not we win. I have a job to go to every day. I have a beautiful wife and the best son anyone could ask for. I have a house to come home to. I have been blessed with a great life. I can't spend my whole life worrying about what happens with this program.

Yes, a lot of people take it a lot more seriously than I do, and that is their right. As a lifelong fan of the White Sox and Bulls, and an alum and fan of BU, I would never turn my back on the program. Never. If some do, so be it. I just don't think that if you are a true fan of a program, you run when times are bad. I think you help any way you can... and all I can do is offer positivity and encouragement.

As I said in the article, it seems everyone likes being negative just to drum up a reaction... and it works... and people will keep doing it. Pardon me if I'm not one of those - I just choose to see the positive in life. I'm not so dumb as to believe that negative things exist - I just choose not to dwell on them.

I like JL as a person, as a fundraiser, as a representative of my alma mater, and as a coach of young men who turn into solid citizens. Many will question his game coaching, which is all that matters to most. Fine... question what you want... just don't turn your back on something you love.

I'm done now.

Excellent!

[canadian]

other fans clearly believe it is all about themselves...

Come on Tornado. Who on here has said it is "all about themselves"? That's a stretch.

I know some fans are concerned with being close to the program, buddies with players and coaches and having "access" to perks, information, etc.. Is that what you are referring too?

[tornado]

so why would any "fan" simply proclaim before the season is over "i'm done, I am not following the team any more.."

[canadian]

so why would any "fan" simply proclaim before the season is over "i'm done, I am not following the team any more.."

I don't know. I didn't say that. I guess you would have to ask that person directly.

[SaintLouBrave22]

I agree...excellent post Mayhem...

I myself might take it a whole lot more serious than most because I have played sports for close to 3 decades...and I'm very involved in the teams I follow...


T-

Really? In it for themselves? Could you elaborate? I mean on here I don't believe this is a McDade issue where people have that much of a vested interest or are making money off this...

That said I agree with one thing you said...i cheer for the players...frankly it's more about them than the coach with myself and I feel as though they're being cheated with such a poor finish, especially for guys like Dodie and Drew who have to end their careers being on one of the worst teams in BU history...

I could dwell on the argument about the coach all I want, but it won't make any difference as we've all come to the conclusion that the battle lines are drawn...


But will everyone agree that no matter who the players or coaches are, we would all be much happier and get along much better with a 23 win Valley championship team?

[dogsrus]

I clearly, then, have a different concept of what a sore loser is...

I consider a sore loser someone who gets mad, blames the coach, turns on the players, turns on other fans/posters, wants everyone fired, and thinks they know better how to build a winner..always looking for someone to blame and lay the fault on...

Instead, I am not sore at all....show me any such evidence...I am instead quite hopeful, optimistic, still wearing red and supporting my team 100% (unlike a lot of people who lay claim to being Bradley fans) and having a good time being a good fan..
I will be here still supporting my team unlike so-called-fans who say right out openly on the message board...
"i'm done watching/listening/caring for this season"

So call it what you want, but to me a sore loser is one who blames everyone else and quits right when his team needs him the most.

Show me "such evidence" that your paragraph two is correct.

[dogsrus]

so why would any "fan" simply proclaim before the season is over "i'm done, I am not following the team any more.."

Well according to you thAts happening all over including places like ISU and CU. And according to many its got nothing to do with the team and its more economic.

COuld be just a person talking out of frustration....why does JL say the things HE says and get T's. Is he really that bad a person...does he mean what he says or is he frustrated like many fans are?

[Da Coach]

This is the kind of silliness I wish we didn't see. Each is entitled to their opinions. We do not need to be adversaries, and demand each other prove their opinions as a way of diminishing them. Every fan wants to win, so nobody is happy with losing or mediocrity, though there are some fans who will never understand that. It's even like a mantra to a few (not anyone here) and they seem to prefer to be unhappy and want to blame everyone else for their misery. Some of us want to remain supportive of the team, even though we are disappointed in the results. And even a few of us feel the current state is not entirely the fault of the coach, and feel he is still the best person to turn things around.

[amckillip]

T and Electric have two of the best posts I've read on here in a very very very long time.

[SaintLouBrave22]

This is the kind of silliness I wish we didn't see. Each is entitled to their opinions. We do not need to be adversaries, and demand each other prove their opinions as a way of diminishing them. Every fan wants to win, so nobody is happy with losing or mediocrity, though there are some fans who will never understand that. It's even like a mantra to a few (not anyone here) and they seem to prefer to be unhappy and want to blame everyone else for their misery. Some of us want to remain supportive of the team, even though we are disappointed in the results. And even a few of us feel the current state is not entirely the fault of the coach, and feel he is still the best person to turn things around.

See NOW you got it!


That's all you really needed to say, though you could've got your point across just as well stopping after the first couple sentences...


But those two sentences...that's exactly what I think most of us have been trying to get at, unfortunately in much different and many different views.

[LittleBrave]

so why would any "fan" simply proclaim before the season is over "i'm done, I am not following the team any more.."

There have been quite a few of us that have proclaimed that throughout the season, but I think a lot of it is out of frustration after a tough/bad loss. But in the end, we get back up, shake off the dust, and continue to follow the team no matter how bad it gets.

While I'm not "glad" that the season is almost over, I will be less stressed out about BU hoops (I know I put too much into it as it is, where I could be focusing on more important things in life).
I guess I'll be glad to be moving on, thinking about the prospects of BU hoops next season instead of dwelling on this past one.

[real fan]

Everyone on here wants BU to win period and are tired of hearing excuses about why they are not winning, if any of us did not care then we would not be on this board giving opinions on what needs to be done in order to accomplish our main goal which if for Bradley to start winning championships, we have invested a lot of time and money over the years and have not won 1 tour. championship since the tournament went to St.Louis , that is not acceptable for a team that gets the support that BU gets, if anyone on here is satisfied with 0 Valley Tour. championships in that time frame please let the rest of us know why this is satisfactory.