ESPN Radio from 2/19

[BradleyJD]

In the case we do have a coaching change, I would also bet we finish no higher than 9th for the next couple years. Long-term enough?

I would take this bet!

[AZ BU Fan]

As with most situations, knowledgeable people can see the same picture quite differently!



If a BU Coaching change is made after this season, it can go either way, IMO, depending on who BU might select.


As Jon Voight said in the movie HEAT, "Hey, its a free country man"
Everyone is entitled to their opinion here!

PS
If BU chooses to stay the course, cause it wouldn't be prudent to change, I hope you are right.

[Bravesfan]

I would take this bet. What's the wager?

Every single time Bradley has fired a coach or made a change the new coach improved by his second year. To think the new guy (if there is one) wouldn't be any good and wouldn't win his first two-three seasons seems like a rather doom and gloom scenario and not based on any fact.

Obviously its your opinion but I would wager you on that.

So I'm square--you are predicting 1st place if Jim Les coaches next year, 9th or worse if someone else does?

Hmmmmm....

Jim Molinari

Yr #1: 7-23, 3-15 in the Valley, 10th
Yr #2: 11-16, 7-11 in the Valley, 7th

Jim Les

Yr #1: 12-18, 8-10 in the Valley, T-5th
Yr #2: 15-16, 7-11 in the Valley, T-6th
Yr #3: 13-15, 6-12 in the Valley, 8th


Now we all know how well Coach Mo did in his third year and Les did in his fourth year. But that's my point exactly. Even good coaches need time to rebuild programs, especially at the mid-major level. As a matter of fact, it was so bad during Coach Mo's first year that I remember him apologizing to the fans for his team's performance on Snell's radio show! So again, Bradley fans have to be prepared for a potentially lengthy period of growing pains if we go with a new coach.

And let's not forget for comparison sakes that it took the "great" Dana Altman four years just to get Creighton into the NIT and five years to start his run of NCAA Tournament appearance, which granted I'm sure was worth the wait for their fans, but his track record is certainly not guaranteed by every coach. And of course Valparaiso coach Homer Drew had five hideously bad seasons before he finally got his team playing winning basketball. They were so bad he was almost at the point were he was contemplating quiting the profession! Again this illustrates how there are no guarantees in life.

[lake Camelot]

Coach Mo had no players his first year. I can see things differently than other people, but I have to say I don't see any possible way a new coach could finish ninth for two years. Not even in the realm of possibility to me.





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[phyneous_j_whoopie]

Are we lamenting the possible loss of JL based on his coaching ability or because he was a great player for BU in the 80's?

If any other coach who didn't happen to be one of the most heralded players in BU history had the same record as JL, would people still be fighting to keep him?

[phyneous_j_whoopie]

Many good points..

Unfortunately..some always will pick you to win the league next year 9 years and counting we have been eliminated from the league race by Feb first. This year it was January first.

The sun will rise and fall with whomever is coach. I for one have no problem with a rebuilding couple of years. Because i feel like we have been in a perpetual rebuilding phase anyway..

Well said SRW

[ph]

Are we lamenting the possible loss of JL based on his coaching ability or because he was a great player for BU in the 80's?

If any other coach who didn't happen to be one of the most heralded players in BU history had the same record as JL, would people still be fighting to keep him?

JL took us to the S16. It had been 50 years since we last did that. 50 years.
I don't want to wait that long again. Some are worried a change would mean another 50 years.
(Especially when the pro-change people keep pointing to the "good old days" with no S16's)

[Da Coach]

Are we lamenting the possible loss of JL based on his coaching ability or because he was a great player for BU in the 80's?

If any other coach who didn't happen to be one of the most heralded players in BU history had the same record as JL, would people still be fighting to keep him?

pjw, no, I don't see anyone making their decision on what you suggest. Perhaps you have been fooled by the attempts of some posters here to distort and exaggerate the opinions of pro-Jim Les fans to believe this, but this has nothing to do with their support of him.
The 2 most significant factors supporting the retention of Jim Les:
Jim Les was handicapped by having the worst facilities in the MVC to recruit to, and to work with until the last 1 year+. Not coincidentally, the quality of player recruited has taken a step up. As these players develop, it will be visible as improved finishes. I think there are a lot of reasonable fans who feel that since Jim Les had a lot to do with raising the funds to build the new athletic facilities, he deserves a chance to coach and take advantage of them.
Point 2 is that it is unfair to blame him for everything you see negative about this season, and to some extent previous couple seasons. It's too bad it needs to be repeated so many times because JL's detractors would like to completely ignore this, but Bradley has had to play this season without 2 preseason All-MVC players. I cannot find any previous season where any MVC team had to play the entire season without 2 preseasn All-MVC players and finished in the top half of the standings. And recall that we were affected by similar injuries for extended periods in the previous seasons to Dodie Dunson, Andrew Warren, Will Egolf, Daniel Ruffin, and Jeremy Crouch.
Fans are free to make their own minds up, but it is disingenuous to suggest that Jim Les has not been handicapped by a serious string of bad luck injuries that have harmed his chances of success. IMO, with a healthy team, Coach Les is as capable, if not more so, of turning this team into a successful postseason team (see 2006). He has proven he can be successful, it is not as if he has had a losing program every season as some imply.

Note- we have heard all the arguments for both sides, so I ask the pro-coaching change people not to tell me I am wrong or try to refute all this as always immediately happens.

[Buesch N Chips]

If any other coach who didn't happen to be one of the most heralded players in BU history had the same record as JL, would people still be fighting to keep him?

Probably, because he has done some good things here. You can find stats to support retainment just as you can find stats to support termination.

[AZ BU Fan]

JL took us to the S16. It had been 50 years since we last did that. 50 years.
I don't want to wait that long again. Some are worried a change would mean another 50 years.
(Especially when the pro-change people keep pointing to the "good old days" with no S16's)

"Past results are no guarantee of future performance."

[AZ BU Fan]

Note- we have heard all the arguments for both sides, so I ask the pro-coaching change people not to tell me I am wrong or try to refute all this as always immediately happens.

I suppose if we have heard all of the arguments for both sides, DC, there wouldn't have been a need to repeat your position on JL AGAIN....and then tell others who disagree to not repeat their positions AGAIN...

Seems kinds unfair

Doesn't the prosecution always get the last argument, if they choose?

JD?

PS - No need to respond!

[tornado]

.... if, Glasser want's to go in a different direction with the head MBB coach ....

just a question if anyone has the answer...

How many head coaching hires that Dr. Glasser has made in any sport at any institution, were what anyone would call "a real success"?

Her hire to replace Travis Ford at EKU took over a tremendous NCAA-caliber team, and now, in the 27th strongest conference (yup, that's how weak the OVC is!), they are RPI 246, and SOS 324....(both worse numbers than ISU has right now!)....
and they haven't had an RPI better than 225 in five years..& have mostly been around 295-300
...so don't tell me, all you guys would take him over JL, right, you'd better get used to 300+ RPI's and SOS's

[Bravesfan]

Coach Mo had no players his first year. I can see things differently than other people, but I have to say I don't see any possible way a new coach could finish ninth for two years. Not even in the realm of possibility to me.

PS anybody know how to post a picture can IM me since I obviously can't.

You're right. Maybe a new coach will finish ninth and seventh instead!

[AZ BU Fan]

just a question if anyone has the answer...

How many head coaching hires that Dr. Glasser has made in any sport at any institution, were what anyone would call "a real success"?

Her hire to replace Travis Ford at EKU took over a tremendous NCAA-caliber team, and now, in the 27th strongest conference (yup, that's how weak the OVC is!), they are RPI 246, and SOS 324....(both worse numbers than ISU has right now!)....
and they haven't had an RPI better than 225 in five years..& have mostly been around 295-300
...so don't tell me, all you guys would take him over JL, right, you'd better get used to 300+ RPI's and SOS's

Isn't the mantra to support whatever decision Dr Glasser and the AD make?
I didn't think real fans took shots at the BU Prez?

Wouldn't Dr Glasser consult with you first T before she makes her final decision?

[shaunguth]

"Past results are no guarantee of future performance."

You're right about that!