Just to be clear

[Da Coach]

can you imagine this year without Dodie and Andrew? Of course we would have other players in their slot.....so who knows....

Bingo- that's the huge difference. Losing a star player right before the season is a much greater negative than the positive of getting a player back another year. The injured players cannot be replaced. A player graduating on schedule can and always is replaced with routine recruiting.

[mrcoachdude]

Just to be clear:

During the season I will not publicly call for the job of a guy that is coaching a team that I support...for I support that team, players and coach...when the season is over...maybe I will voice my opinion...but not now...its destructive to the team I support...


yeh I know players don't read this and coaches never hear about message board banter....yeh right....

[srw]

Bingo- that's the huge difference. Losing a star player right before the season is a much greater negative than the positive of getting a player back another year. The injured players cannot be replaced. A player graduating on schedule can and always is replaced with routine recruiting.

Better players are never routine..and to compare andrew this year (5th year) vs as a junior ..well there isnt any comparison.

Dodie is probably the same as he was last year.

Prosser is another example of this..

His change was frosh, vs 5 year senior...Way different in ability.

[Da Coach]

Better players are never routine..and to compare andrew this year (5th year) vs as a junior ..well there isnt any comparison.

Dodie is probably the same as he was last year.

Prosser is another example of this..

His change was frosh, vs 5 year senior...Way different in ability.

This is getting like the twilight zone. Are you suggesting, as others have, that somehow having devastating, season-ending injuries to the best player(s) on your roster somehow actually benefits a team?

Why do the fans who are anti-JL have to even resort to distorting reality to try to convince themselves and others that it's all Jim Les' fault?

By the way, playing your game, I could make a strong case that the serious injuries to players like AW and WE actually had more than 1 year effect. It probably stunted their progress and hurt their performance their first season, and subsequent seasons back from the injuries.

[jrish12]

Why do the fans who are anti-JL have to even resort to distorting reality to try to convince themselves and others that it's all Jim Les' fault?

Why do fans who are "pro-JL" think nothing has been his fault?

[Da Coach]

Why do fans who are "pro-JL" think nothing has been his fault?

Another gross exaggeration. Where has anyone ever said this? If you are going to lob this, please give us an example.
I have been very critical of the coaching in a number of games this season.

[mrcoachdude]

This is getting like the twilight zone. Are you suggesting, as others have, that somehow having devastating, season-ending injuries to the best player(s) on your roster somehow actually benefits a team?

Why do the fans who are anti-JL have to even resort to distorting reality to try to convince themselves and others that it's all Jim Les' fault?

By the way, playing your game, I could make a strong case that the serious injuries to players like AW and WE actually had more than 1 year effect. It probably stunted their progress and hurt their performance their first season, and subsequent seasons back from the injuries.

AW and WE did take more than 1 year to get back...in fact SRW just eluded to AW not being near the same as last year....

[jrish12]

Ok, i will admit it is an over exageration, but that is what this whole issue has become, blown out of proportion.

You are either labelled "pro-JL" or "anti-JL" there is no middle ground according to some people, you have to be one or the other. I want Bradley University to succeed and I dont give a **** who the coach of the basketball program is as long as they win games.

[mrcoachdude]

Ok, i will admit it is an over exageration, but that is what this whole issue has become, blown out of proportion.

You are either labelled "pro-JL" or "anti-JL" there is no middle ground according to some people, you have to be one or the other. I want Bradley University to succeed and I dont give a **** who the coach of the basketball program is as long as they win games.

Sad but true...if you come on a message board and call for the coach to be fired, you will be labeled anti JL...guess it goes with the territory...

[Da Coach]

Would those who favor the firing of Jim Les prefer being referred to as pro-coaching change?

[dogsrus]

Would those who favor the firing of Jim Les prefer being referred to as pro-coaching change?

Heres a thought...why not just refer to everyone as BU fans that have different opinions......respect those differing views and discuss each thread on the merits (or lack of) of its content.

Just a thought....

[canadian]

Heres a thought...why not just refer to everyone as BU fans that have different opinions......respect those differing views and discuss each thread on the merits (or lack of) of its content.

Just a thought....

Agreed. I don't understand the need to label everybody...like everybody has to fit in a certain camp or group. We are all BU fans here.

[Da Coach]

That would be nice, but since the majority of the discussion here revolves around different philosophies of the fans, there will always be labels. I would hope we don't have to all go through sensitivity training to avoid hurting feelings.

[mrcoachdude]

Heres a thought...why not just refer to everyone as BU fans that have different opinions......respect those differing views and discuss each thread on the merits (or lack of) of its content.

Just a thought....

Dru...you know I like discussing hoops...at all levels...and I really enjoyed some chat, in the chat room, during one of the past games...there were guys in there that I would consider anti-JL or Procoaching change...it did not make any difference on a label.. it was a good open discussion...

we all get labels..some deserved...some not...its life...if I was here saying JL should be canned I would expect to be labeled...anti JL...why would I have a problem with it? Doesn't make me a bad fan...just anti-JL...

Because I have not called for his job...some may label me pro-JL...so what...

[dogsrus]

That would be nice, but since the majority of the discussion here revolves around different philosophies of the fans, there will always be labels. I would hope we don't have to all go through sensitivity training to avoid hurting feelings.

Just thought I'd try. And I appreciate your reply. It says alot.