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  • #91
    Originally posted by Braveman View Post
    WHere in the "creed" does it say anything about being only complimentary and kind to teh local university?
    I don't think anyone is asking for that. You seem to be artificially exaggerating a point of view you disagree with to make them sound unreasonable.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
      I don't think anyone is asking for that. You seem to be artificially exaggerating a point of view you disagree with to make them sound unreasonable.
      That could be copied and pasted for about 10 posters on this board. Come on.
      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        Murph- facts are able to be proven or substantiated. What KW stated is definitely not a fact. But you are welcome to dream.

        I know this wasn't a dream.....

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Braveman View Post
          WHere in the "creed" does it say anything about being only complimentary and kind to teh local university? And do you honestly think that his superiors would let him get away with lies and deceit against the local university?

          Come on people, let's get real here... Some folks here don't like KW, KW may not like JL... so what....
          Had KW cited a source to back his statement, then I wouldn't be debating on this thread. The fact that he made that statement and has not cited a source is irresponsible and unethical.
          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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          • #95
            Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
            That could be copied and pasted for about 10 posters on this board. Come on.
            Haven't seen one person say PJS should always be positive towards the university.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Beninator View Post
              Had KW cited a source to back his statement, then I wouldn't be debating on this thread. The fact that he made that statement and has not cited a source is irresponsible and unethical.
              He doesn't need to cite anything when he states something like:

              "reminded us...likely" when that fits public opinion or belief

              or when he states something like:

              "I’m also sure I am right about this: The unofficial countdown to the end of Jim Les‘s career as head coach has begun. It’s important to emphasize, nothing is set in stone. "

              He is confident in his belief, based on information that he has available, which may or may not be on record. And some of the warning signs he may be basing his belief off of anyone should be able to see, if they so choose.

              It may be a reporters job if indicating something is a fact to cite sources, but an editor or columnist is not required to do that when they aren't claiming something is a fact...KW is so far removed from doing that in both instances to suggest otherwise is well...I'm not going to be banned over something this dumb.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
                He doesn't need to cite anything when he states something like:

                "reminded us...likely" when that fits public opinion or belief

                or when he states something like:

                "I??™m also sure I am right about this: The unofficial countdown to the end of Jim Les???s career as head coach has begun. It??™s important to emphasize, nothing is set in stone. "

                He is confident in his belief, based on information that he has available, which may or may not be on record. And some of the warning signs he may be basing his belief off of anyone should be able to see, if they so choose.

                It may be a reporters job if indicating something is a fact to cite sources, but an editor or columnist is not required to do that when they aren't claiming something is a fact...KW is so far removed from doing that in both instances to suggest otherwise is well...I'm not going to be banned over something this dumb.
                Thank you for demonstrating why the PJS is a bastion of inaccurate mediocrity!
                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                • #98
                  I don't understand why KW wants the program to fail when he is an alum if Bradley, grew up cheering for Bradley, and gets to travel with the team if it were to go to the Dance.

                  I mean, if it were me, I'd personally want the team to do great because watching a "Cinderella" run to the sweet 16 is incredibly fun and probably a career highlight for a man who gets to help cover the team.

                  Maybe he thinks JL isn't the man to get us there again? Maybe he's heard things?

                  I don't think he has some underhanded anti-bu agenda.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                    Had KW cited a source to back his statement, then I wouldn't be debating on this thread. The fact that he made that statement and has not cited a source is irresponsible and unethical.
                    Why would he give away his source.

                    lets say its dr. Cross.

                    He cant say Dr. cross said JL is out.

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                    • A lot of posts since I was last on. I realize that KW is not writing fact pieces ... he hasn't for years

                      But, just like freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to yell "fire" in a packed movie theater, KW if he has any pride in his craft, should not write,
                      "... so many empty seats turn out to watch them play. And yes, they reminded us why Jim Les’ days remaining as head coach likely number fewer than 20"
                      unless he has been told as much by a reliable source connected to the university.

                      KW clearly indicates that he has learned that JL's days are numbered ... what is in question is if the number of days are less than 20.

                      KW supporters can spin it all they like, but if JL is not out of here this year, then KW should be fired if the PJS has an iota of journalistic integrity. He is a hack journalist and the people of Peoria and the Bradley nation deserve someone who doesn't take his position of responsibility as the PJS Sports Editor to write rumor and innuendo pieces.

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                      • Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
                        A lot of posts since I was last on. I realize that KW is not writing fact pieces ... he hasn't for years

                        But, just like freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to yell "fire" in a packed movie theater, KW if he has any pride in his craft, should not write,
                        "... so many empty seats turn out to watch them play. And yes, they reminded us why Jim Les??™ days remaining as head coach likely number fewer than 20"
                        unless he has been told as much by a reliable source connected to the university.

                        KW clearly indicates that he has learned that JL's days are numbered ... what is in question is if the number of days are less than 20.

                        KW supporters can spin it all they like, but if JL is not out of here this year, then KW should be fired if the PJS has an iota of journalistic integrity. He is a hack journalist and the people of Peoria and the Bradley nation deserve someone who doesn't take his position of responsibility as the PJS Sports Editor to write rumor and innuendo pieces.
                        And if JL is out then what? Then is the opposite true? Anyone criticizing him shouldnt be allowed to post or make comments on BU hoops...

                        It doesnt work that way...its silly

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                        • Originally posted by srw View Post
                          And if JL is out then what? Then is the opposite true? Anyone criticizing him shouldnt be allowed to post or make comments on BU hoops...

                          It doesnt work that way...its silly
                          If JL is out of here in 20 days or there-about, then I will immediately post an apology to KW. Will KW do the same if JL is not gone?

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                          • Originally posted by BuAlum03 View Post
                            I don't understand why KW wants the program to fail when he is an alum if Bradley, grew up cheering for Bradley, and gets to travel with the team if it were to go to the Dance.

                            I mean, if it were me, I'd personally want the team to do great because watching a "Cinderella" run to the sweet 16 is incredibly fun and probably a career highlight for a man who gets to help cover the team.

                            Maybe he thinks JL isn't the man to get us there again? Maybe he's heard things?

                            I don't think he has some underhanded anti-bu agenda.
                            I don't actually see anyone accusing KW of "wanting the program to fail", or being anti-BU. So let's stop with this tactic of exaggerating what the issue is with KW.
                            IMO, he wants JL fired, and is willing to suspend journalistic integrity to try to promote that goal.

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                            • Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post

                              If JL is gone in 20 days, then I will issue an apology to KW on this board. If JL is still the coach for next year, then I think KW should do the honorable thing and resign. I'm not simply sticking up for JL as I have had my fill of his small ball player rotation ... but that doesn't mean I support what I think is hatchet journalism.
                              SRW is asking if you would also stop posting? Not trying to be smart here...but you are also asking him to quit. You can't pick and choose demands you wouldn't also apply to yourself.

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                              • Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                                Haven't seen one person say PJS should always be positive towards the university.


                                I wasn't talking about the PJStar on that point.
                                When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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