Appalling grenade?

[ER3]

But it is not always the best solution to blow things up and rebuild from scratch with an unproven entity.

But perhaps it IS the best solution in this case. Only time will tell.

[srw]

So are there any examples of a coach winning 100+ games over 5 seasons, then getting fired for having 1 losing season due to major injury issues?

I realize we haven't won enough. Every fan wants their team to win. But it is not always the best solution to blow things up and rebuild from scratch with an unproven entity.

Da Coach..No playing around here..

Look at the game notes. JL is 18 games under .500 in January. Almost all of those are league games.. Thats a .393 percentage in the first month of league play.

Thats why many of us think its time to rebuild. Because we have no confidence it will change.

You think otherwise...Thats perfectly fine..But I think that note alone, specifies to me why a change is needed

[Disturbed]

So are there any examples of a coach winning 100+ games over 5 seasons, then getting fired for having 1 losing season due to major injury issues?

I realize we haven't won enough. Every fan wants their team to win. But it is not always the best solution to blow things up and rebuild from scratch with an unproven entity.

Those seasons you speak of, and including this one, are now 111-88. I'm not going to leaf through the NCAA record books, but I'm sure guys have been fired for these kinds of numbers. Secondly, most coaches at BU's level don't get to stay around for long stretches when they win at a .56 clip with no conference championships.

Plus - why would the next hire be an unproven entity? You know as well as I do that BU's coaching job is a very good job at the mid major level and there will be many good candidates. JL could be considered the most unproven entity of all time as far as BU coaches go when he was hired.

[Da Coach]

Regardless of who any college hires, they are unproven until they actually win there. Just because a coach won at some lower level, it doesn't mean they will be successful at the next level. For every case where you can name a successful new D1 hire, I can name unsuccessful ones. People who are asking for a new coach seem often to assume the new coach would automatically be a winner. It doesn't happen that way.

[Disturbed]

Regardless of who any college hires, they are unproven until they actually win there. Just because a coach won at some lower level, it doesn't mean they will be successful at the next level. For every case where you can name a successful new D1 hire, I can name unsuccessful ones. People who are asking for a new coach seem often to assume the new coach would automatically be a winner. It doesn't happen that way.

But is your current coach truly a winner when he's only won 52% of his games and not won a conference regular season or tournament title? Outside of the Sweet 16 run, my opinion is that JL hasn't really been successful. I truly respect this website and very much enjoy the discussion that goes on here every day. I respect the passion that you and Tornado have for BU basketball. I think we just differ on how we think it's going to get better, and I know everyone here wants that.

[tornado]

..KW does not have an obligation to Bradley or its fan base. He has an obligation to record his opinion based on the information and facts he has available...

and when he or his staff are wrong and sometimes really really dead wrong...
they never issue apologies, and they come up with alibis...

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7333

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7184

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7256

[BradleyJD]

We have freedom of speech here, too.

Sometimes we do.

[Braveman]

So are there any examples of a coach winning 100+ games over 5 seasons, then getting fired for having 1 losing season due to major injury issues?

I realize we haven't won enough. Every fan wants their team to win. But it is not always the best solution to blow things up and rebuild from scratch with an unproven entity.

Isn't this what happened when Jim was hired?

KW gave his opinion... how can any of us say that he shouldn't? And I disagree that his intent or aim is to harm Bradley's recruiting... He may dislike JL- but let's not get carried away...

And to whomever it was that said KW loves this- you are right... We are on page 5 on another message board, talking about his blogs and articles from the Peoria Journal Star....

[LittleBrave]

I am more focused on the 4 games in 4 days.

Do you guys think we can do that? Its pretty taxing to say the least

Playing with only 7 guys - almost impossible.
Throw in AT and MK for a few minutes each game, and it could happen.
But everyone needs to contribute, and our defensive intensity and schemes need to be great, which I don't see happening. We just played one full half that was absolutely horrible to a team that was lacking offensive firepower.
Missouri St. & Wichita St. will have their way with us down low.
I can see possibly winning 2 games in St. Louis, and that's with our best game. Beyond that...not gonna' happen unless there are some unforeseen upsets.

[Braveman]

I don't know why you need this explained. There is no message. It was created by the messenger.
See the journalist's creed.


And squirrel, he lobbed the grenade with the express intent of causing as much damage to Jim Les and his coaching staff as he could, and promoting such a thing will damage the coaches recruiting efforts. Don't be so naive and say he is just writing an opinion piece. He knew exactly what he was doing. He owes Bradley fans and Coach Les a huge apology. Irresponsible and unethical.

WHere in the "creed" does it say anything about being only complimentary and kind to teh local university? And do you honestly think that his superiors would let him get away with lies and deceit against the local university?

Come on people, let's get real here... Some folks here don't like KW, KW may not like JL... so what....

[LittleBrave]

In my world....I want to win the 1st game in the Valley tourney.....then and only then worry about the 2nd game!

It's kinda' funny that we're talking about the possibility (though very slim) of winning the Valley tournament when our immediate goal is to NOT finish last in the Valley and avoid a 20-game losing season.

[BradleyJD]

WHere in the "creed" does it say anything about being only complimentary and kind to teh local university? And do you honestly think that his superiors would let him get away with lies and deceit against the local university?

Come on people, let's get real here... Some folks here don't like KW, KW may not like JL... so what....

Preach BM preach. I agree 100%.

[ph]

So are there any examples of a coach winning 100+ games over 5 seasons, then getting fired for having 1 losing season due to major injury issues?

I realize we haven't won enough. Every fan wants their team to win. But it is not always the best solution to blow things up and rebuild from scratch with an unproven entity.

I don't think it is unusual for a reasonably successful coach to be fired for losing too much to a rival.

[Murph]

KW wrote that one sentence tells me he definitely knows whats going on.


FACT.....Jim Les is done at BU.

Da Coach..No playing around here..

Look at the game notes. JL is 18 games under .500 in January. Almost all of those are league games.. Thats a .393 percentage in the first month of league play.

Thats why many of us think its time to rebuild. Because we have no confidence it will change.

You think otherwise...Thats perfectly fine..But I think that note alone, specifies to me why a change is needed

[Da Coach]

Murph- facts are able to be proven or substantiated. What KW stated is definitely not a fact. But you are welcome to dream.