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  • #16
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    Sounds to me like he is backing away from his more definitive statement in the previous column, and admitting he doesn't really know.
    Which is exactly what I said was the case.


    Of course it hurts Bradley's recruiting. That is exactly the intent. IMO, that's irresponsible and unethical, but why does that surprise anyone?
    That statement has no factual basis. KW wants BU to win as much as we do.
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
      Sounds to me like he is backing away from his more definitive statement in the previous column, and admitting he doesn't really know.
      Which is exactly what I said was the case.


      Of course it hurts Bradley's recruiting. That is exactly the intent. IMO, that's irresponsible and unethical, but why does that surprise anyone?
      Da Coach...this is one area where you and I disagree. This isn't high school or junior high sports. I don't know if you see Bradley as a "bigtime" program or as one that is more "local" in nature. Do you understand my point there?

      I think Bradley should strive to be "bigtime". They have a huge following. Media following is pretty impressive. I want to be a player on a national level. I understand not quite the same but similar to Illinois. Why not aspire to that?

      There are many, many good things that come of that. Increased media attention is one of them. Look at pro teams and big time college programs. There is media interest, but also scrutiny. People write columns, blogs, thoughts, etc. all the time speculating about this and that. Look at the University of Illinois for the best example.

      If, and that's the question, if, you want Bradley to be bigtime then its ok if a columnist writes things about the head coaching position at Bradley. It not isn't his job to protect the recruiting situation there. Or to cover things up. Or worry about how what he writes affects the program.

      Saying what Kirk wrote is "irresponsible" and "unethical". Come on. How does it fit any of those things? That is the part of what goes on in the sports media every single day.

      Now, maybe you see the Bradley program as small town. Downhomey. Local. Where the local paper and media should always have the local school's best interests at heart and should always be guardians of whats best for them.

      If you feel that way, fine. Just admit it. But you can't be bigtime and want to be players on a national level and then expect the media to always write cushy, good things about you.

      And, FYI--if you don't think coaches weren't already using Jim Les' "job stability" against him in recruiting you are naive. Kirk's three sentence thing today plays no role in that.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        Sounds to me like he is backing away from his more definitive statement in the previous column, and admitting he doesn't really know.
        Which is exactly what I said was the case.


        Of course it hurts Bradley's recruiting. That is exactly the intent. IMO, that's irresponsible and unethical, but why does that surprise anyone?
        Of course he doesn't know for sure. Probably only a few people know for sure--and I don't think Joanne Glasser has been posting on the board.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Beninator View Post
          With the exception of the "Looch" who I could care less about, this topic has been discussed in what 15-20 threads already? Give it a rest.
          OOPS! I didn't see the link in the original post! Now the thread makes more sense.
          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
            Put an end to speculation. Years or not, people are speculating quite strongly, including the local newspaper.

            Bruce Weber has years left on his deal too, and their AD released a statement.

            Everyone is different, and has different philosophies on how to handle these things. I am just saying they could end the speculation if they wanted to. All it would take would be a 2-3 sentence press release to the PJ Star, they don't even have to call a press conference. Glasser loves the spotlight and the press, this is a chance for more. Perhaps even secure some more donations since Jim brings in so much money?

            At the very least, it might help reassure recruits that Jim is going to be there next year when they arrive. Don't you think teams recruiting against BU might use Wessler's column against us, regardless of how inaccurate it may be?
            I agree. A statement needs to be made by Bradley regarding the situation. The longer there is not a statement, the worse the speculation will be.

            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            Sounds to me like he is backing away from his more definitive statement in the previous column, and admitting he doesn't really know.
            Which is exactly what I said was the case.


            Of course it hurts Bradley's recruiting. That is exactly the intent. IMO, that's irresponsible and unethical, but why does that surprise anyone?
            Completely agree here and no this does not surprise me considering the source!
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #21
              srw is the one who called it an "appalling grenade". What is the purpose of a grenade? It is lobbed from a distance, and intended to do the maximum amount to maim and damage. srw is correct. It is intended to do as much harm as is possible. I stand by my impression above, and anyone who thinks it is responsible reporting is either naive, or on the same side as KW, IMO.

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              • #22
                Da Coach..

                I was talking about the Looch saying we couldnt win four games in 4 days, but apparently the coaching change was the more relevant part of the discussion to others.

                I think its going to be hard to win 4 in 4?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                  This is two articles in 3 days speculating strongly that a change is coming. The university could end all the speculation real quick if they wanted to. All they need to do is come out and make a statement that he's returning. Anyone ever ask themselves why they haven't?
                  Honestly, I don't think the university really cares about one man's opinion in a blog (which very few will read) or his article (which was still kind of vague). Plus, I imagine The Prez is enjoying this just a little and waiting to see if there is any public reaction before deciding if it's worth making a statement.

                  My opinion, I don't believe we will see a public statement by Bradley since it might make them look bad if they do go a new direction after this season. Let's face, what Wessler said is not something new. It's what a large percentage of Bradley fans already feel; he's simply stating the obvious. What happens over the next few weeks will probably seal Les' fate. Late season collapse -- see ya! Miracle finish -- one more year.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                    ..... anyone who thinks it is responsible reporting is either naive, or on the same side as KW, IMO.
                    What exactly is "responsible reporting" Da Coach? Last I checked Wessler was paid by the PJS to elicit reaction and sell papers. It would only be "irresponsible" if he was being paid by Bradley. Snell has a responsibility to BU, Wessler does not.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by srw View Post
                      Da Coach..

                      I was talking about the Looch saying we couldnt win four games in 4 days, but apparently the coaching change was the more relevant part of the discussion to others.

                      I think its going to be hard to win 4 in 4?

                      Obviously, it's beyond unlikely...

                      But in my opinion, they need a perfect storm of making almost all of their free throws, good perimeter shooting, real good perimeter defense and/or "fool's gold" of missed 3s by their opponents, and a path to Sunday of being the 10 seed and playing 7 Drake, 2 Missouri St. and 3 UNI and hoping that Wichita spits out the bit along the way. This may sound weird but Wichita and of all teams Southern Illinois are the two that scare me the most down there...

                      But IF IF IF the most unlikely scenario happens since Fairfield about 15 years ago, I can't wait to see it...
                      "That is a dangerous game, friendo" -Kevin Malone on "The Office"

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                      • #26
                        Doubt that Bradley buys out his contract as it would take around 840,00 to do so from what I have heard, more then likely he will be back with an either win or leave after next season, this is per speculation on my part after talking with several people that know a lot about what is going on at BU as far as monetary issues.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                          What exactly is "responsible reporting" Da Coach? Last I checked Wessler was paid by the PJS to elicit reaction and sell papers. It would only be "irresponsible" if he was being paid by Bradley. Snell has a responsibility to BU, Wessler does not.
                          So other than to his bosses at the PJS, KW is not responsible to anything? At the very least, he is responsible to the truth. A reporter is irresponsible if they report things that are not factual, especially when it can be damaging. And suggesting that a coach's days are numbered is tremendously damaging to his and his staff's ability to recruit.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                            So other than to his bosses at the PJS, KW is not responsible to anything? At the very least, he is responsible to the truth. A reporter is irresponsible if they report things that are not factual, especially when it can be damaging. And suggesting that a coach's days are numbered is tremendously damaging to his and his staff's ability to recruit.

                            Should the President make a change now, because the Journal has called for it? I accept your premise that the recruiting is now going to be damaged. Shouldnt Bradley react before they allow the recruiting to get hurt?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                              That statement has no factual basis. KW wants BU to win as much as we do.
                              Two words: YEAH. RIGHT.
                              Compete. Defend. Rebound. Win.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by srw View Post
                                Should the President make a change now, because the Journal has called for it? I accept your premise that the recruiting is now going to be damaged. Shouldnt Bradley react before they allow the recruiting to get hurt?
                                Surely you can't be serious.

                                I guess you feel the USA should have capitulated to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor?
                                Or maybe we should institute Sharia law and allow the Imams to rule the US because we might be hurt by more 9-11s?

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