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Originally posted by BradleyBrave View PostNice article today in the Pantagraph. Many of us have been questioning the true value of participating in the BracketBusters for a while.
+100. The bracketbuster is toast. With the MWC-MVC thing going on, it is time to ditch the BB. But isn't this Elgin's baby?
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at least a couple dozen decent "mid-majors" get a TV game they otherwise would NOT have gotten because of the BracketBuster...
MANY have been MVC teams over the years......
Anytime you can be involved in anything that is directly affiliated with ESPN and gets you 12-15 games on their network of channels...I think you have more to gain than to lose...
There are people like me who get tired of seeing a Duke game, a Kansas game, or a Big East game every single hour of prime time & Saturdays....if we back out of BB, then they'll just replace the games that had the MVC teams with Rutgers vs. USF or Providence vs. West Virginia
That column makes it sound like the Valley getting one bid is somehow connected to BB -- but it's not at all...the Valley getting one bid is due to bad scheduling by Valley teams and failure to win decent non-conference matchups
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tornado does have a valid point. There are 2 sides to BracketBuster. One is the resume-enhancing side that I often discuss. But the other side has nothing to do with the NCAA tournament - it's exposure. Getting a national TV game you otherwise don't get.
However, I'd argue the Valley no longer needs BB for exposure purposes anymore either. The MVC has its own Sunday night slot on ESPNU, and they'll get a few other national games as well. Every preseason Valley contender gets several national games a year now - Bradley got 4 national games this year for being the 5th team of a predicted 5-team breakaway at the top of the MVC in preseason. I don't think the Valley needs the BB boost anymore from that perspective.
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Originally posted by dogsrus View PostI don't mind the BB but WHY 80 teams or whatever it is....why not "earn" it and make it for the top 20 teams......those are the ones most likely on a bubble and can use the resume enhancing game they might not otherwise get.
if they leave a blank date open hoping to do well enough to "earn" a BracketBuster game, then they have a good chance of falling short and ending up with an open date that they could have scheduled a game.
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Originally posted by tornado View Postprobably because teams want to complete their schedule before the season starts...
if they leave a blank date open hoping to do well enough to "earn" a BracketBuster game, then they have a good chance of falling short and ending up with an open date that they could have scheduled a game.
Yuck
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Originally posted by tornado View Postat least a couple dozen decent "mid-majors" get a TV game they otherwise would NOT have gotten because of the BracketBuster...
MANY have been MVC teams over the years......
Anytime you can be involved in anything that is directly affiliated with ESPN and gets you 12-15 games on their network of channels...I think you have more to gain than to lose...
There are people like me who get tired of seeing a Duke game, a Kansas game, or a Big East game every single hour of prime time & Saturdays....if we back out of BB, then they'll just replace the games that had the MVC teams with Rutgers vs. USF or Providence vs. West Virginia
That column makes it sound like the Valley getting one bid is somehow connected to BB -- but it's not at all...the Valley getting one bid is due to bad scheduling by Valley teams and failure to win decent non-conference matchups
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Originally posted by tornado View Postprobably because teams want to complete their schedule before the season starts...
if they leave a blank date open hoping to do well enough to "earn" a BracketBuster game, then they have a good chance of falling short and ending up with an open date that they could have scheduled a game.
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Originally posted by TheAsianSensation View PostAnd while we talk about the impact on the resume, the financial impact of not having a game when you could've scheduled a home game in November and pocketed a little extra profit is non-negligible.
If you're good, you get a good game and most likely a 2nd good game.
Since BU's been in it, we've only received a "good" game once. And this is year 7 or 8.
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Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View PostThat's secondary to not being competitive enough to capitalize from it.
If you're good, you get a good game and most likely a 2nd good game.
Since BU's been in it, we've only received a "good" game once. And this is year 7 or 8.
Here's a list of our opponents the year we played them in the BracketBuster with their RPI and ours in (#).
2004 #279 N Illinois (#152)
2005 #75 W Ky (#142)
2006 #135 Tn Tech (#33)
2007 #44 VCU (#38 )
2008 #178 Wi-Milwaukee (#105)
2009 #214 Loyola (#98 )
2010 #146 Drexel (#105)
currrently for...
2011 #290 Tenn-Martin (#237)
Hmmmph... now looking at those RPI #'s... we REALLY got hosed in '06. And except for the W Ky game, we got teams with a worse RPI EVERY year. Jeezle-pete... maybe we DO need to get out of this thing.
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Originally posted by TheAsianSensation View PostAnd while we talk about the impact on the resume, the financial impact of not having a game when you could've scheduled a home game in November and pocketed a little extra profit is non-negligible.
Heck, playing those type of games early in the season (home, non-conference against bad teams) is the reason the MVC is in the spot it is.
It's short-sighted, IMO, to think about a pay day against a SWAC team versus the potential of a resume-boosting BB game.
The only catch is that you have to be a good enough team to be in contention for an NCAA bid.
If not, you probably still end up with a game that's better (RPI-wise) than that SWAC home pay day game.
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Originally posted by MacabreMob View PostThat's just not true. Yes - the "good" game you refer to was VCU on tv. But I think the Western Kentucky game was a good game. And your comments suggest we were good only 1 year. That also is just not true. The year we went to the Sweet 16, we got hosed with the Tenn Tech matchup.
Here's a list of our opponents the year we played them in the BracketBuster with their RPI and ours in (#).
2004 #279 N Illinois (#152)
2005 #75 W Ky (#142)
2006 #135 Tn Tech (#33)
2007 #44 VCU (#38 )
2008 #178 Wi-Milwaukee (#105)
2009 #214 Loyola (#98 )
2010 #146 Drexel (#105)
currrently for...
2011 #290 Tenn-Martin (#237)
Hmmmph... now looking at those RPI #'s... we REALLY got hosed in '06. And except for the W Ky game, we got teams with a worse RPI EVERY year. Jeezle-pete... maybe we DO need to get out of this thing.
In 2006, BU was pretty far down the MVC list when the pairings were set at the first of Feb. If you recall, the run started near the middle of February. BU was 6-5 in the MVC when the pairings were set.
Tenn Tech was 10-4 in their league at the beginning of Feb.
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