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  • #46
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    If there is a legacy for Jim Les....
    Whatever happens to JL at BU, his legacy should be he turned around a struggling program, injected enthusiasm into the fan base, recruited local kids, got to the S-16 and NIT, and helped spearhead development of a MVC best training/practice facility for the BU MBB program.

    Plus was a great husband and father while in a job that makes both of these very difficult...
    BUilding for the Future

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    • #47
      Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
      Whatever happens to JL at BU, his legacy should be he turned around a struggling program, injected enthusiasm into the fan base, recruited local kids, got to the S-16 and NIT, and helped spearhead development of a MVC best training/practice facility for the BU MBB program.

      Plus was a great husband and father while in a job that makes both of these very difficult...
      The program wasn't struggling when Les got here. We were a year removed from a 2nd place MVC finish and title game appearance.

      That being said, once time has passed and wounds have healed, we will remember the influx of Peoria talent, the amazing Sweet 16 run, an NBA lottery pick, the best 3 point shooting team in the nation, a win over Illinois, and new men's practice facilities that are as good as any program's in the country. Sure, there may be some shortcomings to the past 9 years that we aren't happy with, but the items mentioned above are not a bad legacy to have at all.
      Onward and Upward!

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      • #48
        Also can't forget the hearbreaking near win vs MSU Spartans at the PCC...
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        • #49
          Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
          Whatever happens to JL at BU, his legacy should be he turned around a struggling program, injected enthusiasm into the fan base, recruited local kids, got to the S-16 and NIT, and helped spearhead development of a MVC best training/practice facility for the BU MBB program.

          Plus was a great husband and father while in a job that makes both of these very difficult...
          um struggling program..it was one year removed from a second place finish.
          with granger,tucker gilly gilbert and cello on the roster.

          the other stuff fine...
          but why should his legacy be 9 years without higher than a 4th place finish, 2 play in game losses, and all the other bad stuff

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          • #50
            9-9..... 7th....... 1.9M attendance...... 2-1 St Lou
            11-7.. T-2nd..... 2.1M attendance...... 1-1 St Lou.... 0-1 NIT
            10-8... 5th........ 2.2M attendance ..... 0-1 St Lou
            12-6... 2nd ....... 2.6M attendance ..... 2-1 St Lou.... 0-1 NIT
            5-13... 8th........ 2.4M attendance ..... 1-1 St Lou

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            OK, not exactly struggling last 5 seasons, by today's standards, but no conference championships, no conference titles, and the 5-13 season, not exactly on top of the MVC....

            11-7 tied for 2nd, and, 12-6 good for 2nd, deceiving as far as MVC finishes under MO....
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            • #51
              Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
              9-9..... 7th....... 1.9M attendance...... 2-1 St Lou
              11-7.. T-2nd..... 2.1M attendance...... 1-1 St Lou.... 0-1 NIT
              10-8... 5th........ 2.2M attendance ..... 0-1 St Lou
              12-6... 2nd ....... 2.6M attendance ..... 2-1 St Lou.... 0-1 NIT
              5-13... 8th........ 2.4M attendance ..... 1-1 St Lou

              47-43

              OK, not exactly struggling last 5 seasons, by today's standards, but no conference championships, no conference titles, and the 5-13 season, not exactly on top of the MVC....

              11-7 tied for 2nd, and, 12-6 good for 2nd, deceiving as far as MVC finishes under MO....
              And as I have said, on the whole, you could argue that Les has done pretty close to the same as every other BU coach in the modern era. I tried to show in the "no opinions...just facts" thread that you could provide stats to support every position, and that BU basketball is at its best when some recruit just comes in and goes nuts, regardless of coach (JJ, Hawk, AP, POB.) Without that player, can we only reach a certain level of success? Is there a ceiling to Bradley basketball? I don't know the answer. If you say no, are you just saying that because you don't want there to be one?

              Les has not come in and taken the program to a new sustainable level. The question is, based on whatever factors, is that even possible? If not, and we are who we are, who better than a beloved alum who would do anything for his university to lead your team?

              That is for the bosses to decide.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by srw View Post
                um struggling program..it was one year removed from a second place finish.
                with granger,tucker gilly gilbert and cello on the roster.

                the other stuff fine...
                but why should his legacy be 9 years without higher than a 4th place finish, 2 play in game losses, and all the other bad stuff
                Yes. A 2nd place finish after a period when he was not actively recruiting top-flight talent. He had a couple seniors that had nice seasons and 3 promising FRESHMEN who were the core of the team and the next year saw an even greater influx of what would have been program changing players.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post

                  ...and we (BU) are who we are, who better than a beloved alum who would do anything for his university to lead your team?
                  JL was allowed to lead his university's team for almost a decade because he was a beloved alum who would do anything for his university...

                  Evolution demands change. With survival of the fittest the apparent rule of the planet, BU must keep trying to find a leader who can move the program forward, regardless if one believes there is a ceiling on BU MBB performance, or perish...


                  Charlers Darwin AD Cambridge University
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                  • #54
                    Someone said this earlier and I think it rings true...


                    Sometimes guys just stay too long, and that has been the case with the last couple coaches at BU...


                    Like some said, Les will have a legacy that will never be erased...while they never finished with a championship, he does have the new buildings and the Sweet 16 to remember him by and through everything he has been a class act...


                    Sometimes it's just right to move on and give someone else the opportunity...plus he could probably tell you a few years from now, if Bradley has great success, that he's happy for the program. He is just that type of guy.

                    Plus if he wants to stay in coaching somewhere, he'd make somebody one heck of a recruiter...he's an outstanding salesman on a program.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                      Someone said this earlier and I think it rings true...


                      Sometimes guys just stay too long, and that has been the case with the last couple coaches at BU...


                      Like some said, Les will have a legacy that will never be erased...while they never finished with a championship, he does have the new buildings and the Sweet 16 to remember him by and through everything he has been a class act...


                      Sometimes it's just right to move on and give someone else the opportunity...plus he could probably tell you a few years from now, if Bradley has great success, that he's happy for the program. He is just that type of guy.

                      Plus if he wants to stay in coaching somewhere, he'd make somebody one heck of a recruiter...he's an outstanding salesman on a program.
                      I think he'd be great on an NBA bench too.
                      Onward and Upward!

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