For everything said..tonight was the JL era wrapped in a bow!

[LittleBrave]

The frustrating part of last night's game was that I don't think we got outplayed - just out-smarted. Our offense had pretty good flow.
But had the game been coached better and players put into position to have a fighting chance, I think BU ends up winning this one.

I think each Brave on the floor played a solid game and we still lost. When we go zone, our athleticism and grittiness get lost.

Our perimeter shooting woes were exposed last night too, and when AW doesn't feel it from outside, we're in trouble.

Just don't get why we didn't get WE and JP more involved, as they were having pretty good nights offensively.

[jrish12]

I think it's real hard to fire a guy in a year like this, because of the hand he was dealt, but it is acceptable to expect improvement. I guess the question is, could someone else have done better in the same situation? Impossible to know.

EXACTLY! The same line could be used for if SM and TB were still playing. We really dont know what would have happened.

But if you distort other people's opinions enough, you can always make them look like buffoons, and yourself look like a genius.

Goes both ways....

[Buesch N Chips]

The Green Bay Packers had many injuries to key players this season. They went on to win the Super Bowl, not contend for the basement.

I would call this comparison somewhat valid, but not totally. The Packers can also go out and sign players to replace them. There's a little more of a "scrap heap" to choose from in the NFL than in the NCAA.

[srw]

I even agree with those that say sammy is our best player.

But if he had stayed healthy aw wouldnt be here in his 5th year. he missed two years ago when he was a lot more one dimensional.

Furthermore, he wouldnt have gotten near the shotz this year if the two of them were around.

I got tired of the excuses before the sweet 16 run. Loved the season after it. Everything else...
Mediocrity or worse.

[Braves4Life]

Wow, the comprisons like this are really starting to amaze me. How is the GB Packers' situation relevant? I could find plenty of examples of teams losing star players and dropping way back, but I would be accused of making excuses, and being a kool-aid drinker.
Would the GB Packers have won the Super Bowl if they had lost Aaron Rodgers? Gimme a break.

I do side with this part - to me, Maniscalco is our Rodgers.

I don't think Aaron Rodgers ever lost as a Packer to a last place team or a scrimmage team. BU with both Brown and Maniscalco (last year) and then with just Maniscalco (this year) has lost to D2 as well as VERY bad D1 teams. I blame this on coaching. Sorry. If not the "in-game" the in the preparation of the game. And, if neither, then I blame it on the recruiting.

[Braves4Life]

I would call this comparison somewhat valid, but not totally. The Packers can also go out and sign players to replace them. There's a little more of a "scrap heap" to choose from in the NFL than in the NCAA.

All the more reason that recruiting and properly assembling all of the pieces preemptively is so important in college basketball. That's why good coaches have consistency year after year.

[ancona flash]

All the more reason that recruiting and properly assembling all of the pieces preemptively is so important in college basketball. That's why good coaches have consistency year after year.

Amen. And this to me is the biggest indictment on the current administration.

So then do we accept consistent mediocrity? What is it going to take for people to be held accountable?

I'm tired of what I'm seeing from this program.

[Buesch N Chips]

All the more reason that recruiting and properly assembling all of the pieces preemptively is so important in college basketball. That's why good coaches have consistency year after year.

True, but we can't go out and replace guys out for the season. We have two fewer players than we would have had. GB can go out and sign replacements.

ETA: I think the comparison can be used, but they are not truly identical situations.

[dogsrus]

Danny Adams said as much on the radio last night. He said our D was not good at all, especially on giving UNI wide open 3's.

He's the charter member in the "blame the coach for everything club."

[squirrelgotdead]

I think it's real hard to fire a guy in a year like this, because of the hand he was dealt, but it is acceptable to expect improvement. I guess the question is, could someone else have done better in the same situation? Impossible to know.

Not really. In terms of being "dealt a hand", JL's role in the program is as the dealer. And a dealer that loses money for the house isn't a dealer for very long.

[srw]

True, but we can't go out and replace guys out for the season. We have two fewer players than we would have had. GB can go out and sign replacements.

ETA: I think the comparison can be used, but they are not truly identical situations.

I actually agree with you here..

But no one seems to want to address that without the injuries our best player wouldnt be here anyway

[canadian]

I actually agree with you here..

But no one seems to want to address that without the injuries our best player wouldnt be here anyway

This has been my point. You just cannot say that:

Without injuries to Sam and Taylor this team would be (insert record here). Because without injuries Dodie and Andrew wouldn't be on this current roster. Doesn't make injuries any less legit but it's not as simple as plugging guys in the roster and saying things would be better.

You don't get to pick and chose which players you want and when. Man, if only Anthony Parker had been 13 years younger this team would be awesome

[Buesch N Chips]

This has been my point. You just cannot say that:

Without injuries to Sam and Taylor this team would be (insert record here). Because without injuries Dodie and Andrew wouldn't be on this current roster. Doesn't make injuries any less legit but it's not as simple as plugging guys in the roster and saying things would be better.

You don't get to pick and chose which players you want and when. Man, if only Anthony Parker had been 13 years younger this team would be awesome

Egolf would also be a year better.

[canadian]

Egolf would also be a year better.

No, Egolf would be the same age as he is. Being around one more year doesn't make one better. I don't concede that.

But if you do concede that then how good wood DSE be? He has been an all-league type guy the last month or so. Would he even be playing minutes in our "all healthy" scenario? This is why "what if" scenarios are exercises in futility.

[squirrelgotdead]

It's also not his fault we don't have McCain and Norris.

Look, you get 13 scholarship players. We played only 7 last night. 2 were available and DNP-Coach's Decision. 2 were not available due to injury. 1 is on hold for a probable redshirt. 1 walk-on did play. That leaves one unused.

I get the injury argument, and you can play that card to an extent. But that stops when you still have 11 opportunities to counter that (not counting walk-ons), and basically only half of that can be utilized.