All issues

[BradleyJD]

Some thoughts on the back and forth arguing that sometimes happens on here.....



Everyone just take a deep breath and relax a second.

We all know Bradley hasn't won as much as we would all like in the past few years. We can also all agree, I think, that under Jim Les, Bradley has been mostly clean. To be sure, there have been some trouble here and there, but for the most part Bradley has avoided major crimes and headlines.

The world is gray. It is not black and white. Bradley is not 100% clean, 100% of the time. We are also not UNLV from the 1980's-90's either.

Jim Les/Bradley are not sinners or a saints, they are just like the rest of us...somewhere in between.

[Buesch N Chips]

Some thoughts on the back and forth arguing that sometimes happens on here.....



Everyone just take a deep breath and relax a second.

We all know Bradley hasn't won as much as we would all like in the past few years. We can also all agree, I think, that under Jim Les, Bradley has been mostly clean. To be sure, there have been some trouble here and there, but for the most part Bradley has avoided major crimes and headlines.

The world is gray. It is not black and white. Bradley is not 100% clean, 100% of the time. We are also not UNLV from the 1980's-90's either.

Jim Les/Bradley are not sinners or a saints, they are just like the rest of us...somewhere in between.

As Obama said, there is a fringe right, a fringe left, and a "sensible center".

[Braveman]

JD- Playing the Rodney King card!

"Can't we all just get along?"

[BradleyJD]

JD- Playing the Rodney King card!

"Can't we all just get along?"

Not exactly that far...but come on. Everyone acts like it's all extreme this or that

[Buesch N Chips]

Not exactly that far...but come on. Everyone acts like it's all extreme this or that

Amen. People who only see the bad ignore the good, and people who only see the good ignore the bad. And there is plenty of both that you can cite. It's probably the same with every coach in every program.

I will say that I still haven't met a member of the "lifetime pass" club. Are there any?

[TylerDurden]

Amen. People who only see the bad ignore the good, and people who only see the good ignore the bad. And there is plenty of both that you can cite. It's probably the same with every coach in every program.

I will say that I still haven't met a member of the "lifetime pass" club. Are there any?

Jim Boeheim and Coach K might be as close as it gets and I'm not sure we'll see that sort of tenure again once they leave.

[squirrelgotdead]

Amen. People who only see the bad ignore the good, and people who only see the good ignore the bad.

That is a presumptuous thing to say. I know you only like to hear good stuff. I don't assume you don't recognize there are things that are wrong. I get you just don't want to hear it.

Why do you assume that just because something isn't said, isn't recognized? I don't look for false negatives.

[jrish12]

Jim Boeheim and Coach K might be as close as it gets and I'm not sure we'll see that sort of tenure again once they leave.

I would say in the past there were alot more because there was alot more loyalty back in the day, ie. John Thompson, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, John Wooden, Tom Izzo(although that was put to the test this past off season), etc.

But I think he was regarding to the issue at BU and I have never seen anyone say "lifetime contract" for anyone involved on both sides

I agree with JD and I posted on another thread that there is a whole lot of gray area that some people either dont understand or choose to ignore because it doesnt fit their views, so it has to be their way or the opposite. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, its a message board for petes sake, but we all want the same thing which is success for Bradley university, and in particular the men's basketball program.

[Buesch N Chips]

But I think he was regarding to the issue at BU and I have never seen anyone say "lifetime contract" for anyone involved on both sides

There have been people on the negative side of the spectrum who have insinuated that there are some fans who want to give Coach Les a "lifetime contract." Their words. My point is I don't think those people exist.

[Da Coach]

Here is the issue we have, and which we will continue to enforce-
Fans have always had plenty of opportunity to post negative criticism. We can find it in almost every thread. But yesterday a thread was started about the letter to the sports editor which pointed out a few good things about Coach Les and the Bradley program. One simple thread with a couple nice words, and immediately the thread was taken over by negative posters dragging out and amplifying every possible negative issue for the millionth time, even trivial issues and matters which happened as much as 8 years ago. It seems to be impossible for anyone to post a single positive opinion here without the negative people telling us we are wrong and regurgitating all the same things and trying to take over the thread. I and many fans are tired of that. We are not in favor of censorship, but the obsession of pissing in everyone's kool-aid is threatening to turn this board into another miserable form of ValleyTalk, or the PJ Star forum, and we won't allow that to happen. Sorry if that hurts the sensitivites of some, but they can always go back to the other board and lob attacks back at us as they always do.

[BradleyJD]

Here is the issue we have, and which we will continue to enforce-
Fans have always had plenty of opportunity to post negative criticism. We can find it in almost every thread. But yesterday a thread was started about the letter to the sports editor which pointed out a few good things about Coach Les and the Bradley program. One simple thread with a couple nice words, and immediately the thread was taken over by negative posters dragging out and amplifying every possible negative issue for the millionth time, even trivial issues and matters which happened as much as 8 years ago. It seems to be impossible for anyone to post a single positive opinion here without the negative people telling us we are wrong and regurgitating all the same things and trying to take over the thread. I and many fans are tired of that. We are not in favor of censorship, but the obsession of pissing in everyone's kool-aid is threatening to turn this board into another miserable form of ValleyTalk, or the PJ Star forum, and we won't allow that to happen. Sorry if that hurts the sensitivites of some, but they can always go back to the other board and lob attacks back at us as they always do.

I understand most of what you post. I actually did not read all of that thread, and I didn't post in it at all.

However, as I tried to state above, both "sides" or views need to realize that there is a middle ground.

BU is not perfect.

BU is not at rock-bottom either.

Again, we all want success, we just have different views of how that might be achieved.

[Buesch N Chips]

Here is the issue we have, and which we will continue to enforce-
Fans have always had plenty of opportunity to post negative criticism. We can find it in almost every thread. But yesterday a thread was started about the letter to the sports editor which pointed out a few good things about Coach Les and the Bradley program. One simple thread with a couple nice words, and immediately the thread was taken over by negative posters dragging out and amplifying every possible negative issue for the millionth time, even trivial issues and matters which happened as much as 8 years ago. It seems to be impossible for anyone to post a single positive opinion here without the negative people telling us we are wrong and regurgitating all the same things and trying to take over the thread. I and many fans are tired of that. We are not in favor of censorship, but the obsession of pissing in everyone's kool-aid is threatening to turn this board into another miserable form of ValleyTalk, or the PJ Star forum, and we won't allow that to happen. Sorry if that hurts the sensitivites of some, but they can always go back to the other board and lob attacks back at us as they always do.

I agree, although the most upfront and consistent way to deal with posts that do not follow the TOS is probably to delete them, rather than responding to them in the thread and then deleting later. My opinion. Your site.

[Buesch N Chips]

We are not in favor of censorship, but the obsession of pissing in everyone's kool-aid is threatening to turn this board into another miserable form of ValleyTalk, or the PJ Star forum, and we won't allow that to happen.

The PJ star board talks about this board more than the team. You should feel honored.

[tornado]

There have been people on the negative side of the spectrum who have insinuated that there are some fans who want to give Coach Les a "lifetime contract." ....

what?? I am pretty closely affiliated with many if not most of the truest, most die-hard, long time, loyal BU fans and JL-supporters...
and this is the very first I have ever hard of the concept of giving JL a "lifetime contract". I have never even heard of anyone mentioning such a thing up 'til now...

If someone actually believes or alleges that such a contract has ever been proposed, considered, offered, or even theorized, then I believe they are loony and just making things up.

But then, that is a common, though disreputable, way to argue -- to infinitely exaggerate the perceived opinion held by the other individual, then make it sound like his opinion is way too extreme and thus preposterous...this is the msnbc-way of attacking Sarah Palin...

[Da Coach]

I think the reference to a "lifetime contract" is usually intended as more of a joke, but it is an example of exaggerating the stance of opposite side in a discussion to make your argument look more rational.