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Sorry, I initially forgot about McCain's incident last year. I guess that means it didn't happen.
You still didn't tell me where I stretched the truth.
We are talking about bad kids, not kids with speeding tickets, and citations for throwing snowballs, and you throw names out like Will, Theron, TCS, Saihou, and others. None of those guys were problem players, and don't belong in this discussion at all.
Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth instead of answering my question of where I stretched the truth or stated something anti-JL?
You have made it clear that you want JL fired, and that you blame him for many of the losses. I define that as anti-JL. I am not the only one here who thinks you are anti-JL. Why not just admit it. Go ahead and spin that if you want.
We are talking aout bad kids, not kids with speeding tickets, and citations for throwing snowballs, and you throw names out like Will, Theron, TCS, Saihou, and others. None of those guys were problem players, and don't belong in this discussion at all.
I cited 9 players who had run-ins with the law. I didn't make things up. The only truth that was stretched was saying they didn't get in trouble.
You have made it clear that you want JL fired, and that you blame him for many of the losses. I define that as anti-JL. I am not the only one here who thinks you are anti-JL. Why not just admit it. Go ahead and spin that if you want.
Admit what? That I think we can do better? That I don't like losing? That I am not content with average to below-average basketball? Yes, I think BU can do better than it has the past 4-5 seasons, don't you? At most winning programs, that usually means a change in direction, regardless if Jim Les, Joe Stowell, Hersey Hawkins, JJ Anderson, or Lydia Moss Bradley is the coach.
Is Joanne Glasser anti-JL if she dismisses him?
Is the board of trustees anti-JL if they approve a buyout?
Your standards of success for our beloved university are amazingly low, especially for someone who generously donates as much time and as many resources as you do.
But back to my original questions - What did I say in my posts that were anti-JL, and where did I stretch any truths?
You cited: Jabbar Battle, Saihou Jassey, Tyrone Cole-Scott, Theron Wilson, Dan Ruffin, Will Egolf, Taylor Brown, Eddren McCain
That is only 8.
9 is stretching the truth.
And IMO, citing players for speeding tickets and snowball fights is also a major stretch.
So they didn't get in trouble? You said they didn't get in trouble. That to me is more of a stretch than naming the 7-8 whatever players that did have run-ins with the law. You could have easily said 'in major trouble' or 'trouble of any significance' but you didn't. We can do the semantics thing all night if you want...
I don't think BradleyBrave is anti-Les but rather just a good, life long Bradley fan that wants more from the program on the court. No one can argue with Les' success in graduating players and running a clean and honest program that graduates (mostly) fine young men.
If we're to be honest here Bradley Basketball has been mostly mediocre for the past 9 years. After next year, if we're still no better than mediocre, I will be ready for a change as well.
And the whole issue here is about producing graduates that Bradley can be proud of, and you bring up kids with speeding tickets. That is a massive stretch. But if you want to call all those kids bad kids, then go for it.
I think most fans are proud of them and don't consider them bad guys.
And the whole issue here is about producing graduates that Bradley can be proud of, and you bring up kids with speeding tickets. That is a massive stretch. But if you want to call all those kids bad kids, then go for it.
And the whole issue here is about producing graduates that Bradley can be proud of, and you bring up kids with speeding tickets. That is a massive stretch. But if you want to call all those kids bad kids, then go for it.
I think most fans are proud of them and don't consider them bad guys.
Never called them bad guys or bad kids. Please point out where I said that. I just said that the statement you made was incorrect. They did get in trouble.
And yes, I miscounted. It was 8. My mistake. You got me on that one! Massive stretch!
I don't think BradleyBrave is anti-Les but rather just a good, life long Bradley fan that wants more from the program on the court.
Ding!
What's funny is that I don't think I have ever met you B4L, but I have met and spoken with DC several times going back several years, and I am pretty sure he knows this as well.
Again, please don't paint people who would like to see a different coach at the BU MBB helm as wack jobs, jackwagons, crazies, or illiterate morons.
We all know exactly what JL has accomplished, as, we are also aware of what he hasn't been able to accomplish in his 9 years. He is a great guy, and apparently tries to run a clean program. This is acknowledged.
Why is it heresy for some to start to believe JL can't move BU to the next level?
Why do we have to ignore everything else and hang onto players missing playing time as the only reason BU hasn't won an MVC Title/MVC Tourney Title in JL's coaching career?
Yes, there is risk in a coaching change. There is also risk JL has taken the BU program as far as he can.
Both sides have equally relevant cases for their beliefs.
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