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  • #16
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    Who knows, and I am not trying to make excuses for anyone. But I think a healthy TB would have made a big difference last night. A healthy SM would have also made a big difference, IMO.

    And of course there were instances that in retrospect we can pick at and say the coaching should have been different. You could do that with any coach, and any game. But unlike several earlier games, I don't think last night's loss was caused by poor coaching moves.
    Having TB last night puts him guarding Wilkins late...instead of Walt or DSE trying to guard him...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
      Who knows, and I am not trying to make excuses for anyone. But I think a healthy TB would have made a big difference last night. A healthy SM would have also made a big difference, IMO.
      I think everyone would agree.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
        Having TB last night puts him guarding Wilkins late...instead of Walt or DSE trying to guard him...
        Yes, having TB last night would probably get us the win.
        But we shouldn't have needed him last night to win.
        With a healthy TB, we should have blown them out of Carver. Without him, we should have handled them pretty easily. THAT didn't happen.
        Suppose we DID have TB last night and win by 4 or 5. Would anyone be happy with the win? Probably not.

        After the first 10 minutes, I was feeling sorry for the 'Birds...hmmmm - same feeling I had last year when we played them in Carver. Actually thought we'd end up winning by 20 or so. Had we won by 5, I wouldn't have been too happy. But losing the way we did made me toss and turn until 2 A.M. They had no business being in this game, let alone winning.

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        • #19
          Little B...I would be happy with any win at this point....
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          • #20
            I refuse to let myself be tortured.

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            • #21
              Hey - at least we're not ISU!!!
              Oh, wait...I guess we'd have 2 Valley wins already, which may be more than we'll have at the end of next month.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                Well I think this much is clear. There are so many things going wrong, breaking down, etc that everyone is almost stunned.

                I think the world of Coach Les as a person. I was thrilled that he brought BU to the S16. But, I also realize that sometimes things just don't work for some reason.

                I do not believe we need to change in-season. After the season, I do believe the A.D. or Prez. or whoever needs to do some very serious reviewing of the program as a whole.
                I agree with this, but if they decide to bring JL back for another year we'll be having this conversation for another year because some people won't agree with that decision. There are people that believe there should be a change made during the season. I'm sure it was someone here that said he should be fired after just 5 games this season. Someone else thought he should have been fired after last night's game, win or lose, because of a bad technical given by an official.
                ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                  I agree with this, but if they decide to bring JL back for another year we'll be having this conversation for another year because some people won't agree with that decision. There are people that believe there should be a change made during the season. I'm sure it was someone here that said he should be fired after just 5 games this season. Someone else thought he should have been fired after last night's game, win or lose, because of a bad technical given by an official.
                  If this program was having measurable success, there would be no uproar.

                  Mediocrity was not acceptable to me, but to many it was ok because of other things people liked about Coach Les.

                  But when you are mediocre, then you fall flat..its a hard landing

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Buesch N Chips View Post
                    I think everyone would agree.
                    I don't see how anyone could think SM and TB wouldn't make a h-ll of a difference. Thats just plain silly to think they wouldn't but, being realistic they would only get us to 4th or 5th. We would not be better then MSU,WSU,& Creighton. We would be battling NIU & ISU blue for 4th but we could also end up 6TH. We have alot of work to do for next year and whose going to be running the show could be very interesting.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by wily coyote View Post
                      I don't see how anyone could think SM and TB wouldn't make a h-ll of a difference. Thats just plain silly to think they wouldn't but, being realistic they would only get us to 4th or 5th. We would not be better then MSU,WSU,& Creighton. We would be battling NIU & ISU blue for 4th but we could also end up 6TH. We have alot of work to do for next year and whose going to be running the show could be very interesting.
                      wily...I could see 4th or 5th happening...but with those two healthy I could also see 1st or 2nd...a team can get on a roll and have a great season...we will just never really know...could have gone either way...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                        wily...I could see 4th or 5th happening...but with those two healthy I could also see 1st or 2nd...a team can get on a roll and have a great season...we will just never really know...could have gone either way...
                        I agree with you that would be a possibility but probably wouldn't happen. We miss SM and TB alot but that doesn't alter the fact we have no serviceable bigs like most of the top six have. IMO thats where we fall way short of the rest of the league and until we bring in some big bodies to take care of the paint and boards we are a 4th or 5th place team. The sweet 16 team proves anything can happen if you get on a roll like they did,so it is possible just not likely.

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                        • #27
                          I kind of wonder what it would be like to have:

                          1- SM
                          2 - AW
                          3 - TB
                          4 - WE
                          5 - JP


                          How about next year except...who would be the 2.....
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                            I kind of wonder what it would be like to have:

                            1- SM
                            2 - AW
                            3 - TB
                            4 - WE
                            5 - JP


                            How about next year except...who would be the 2.....
                            History would tell you........
                            4th or 5th
                            would it not?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                              I kind of wonder what it would be like to have:

                              1- SM
                              2 - AW
                              3 - TB
                              4 - WE
                              5 - JP


                              How about next year except...who would be the 2.....


                              Ahhhh what COULD have been,,,,,

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                                Ahhhh what COULD have been,,,,,
                                Injuries are bliss

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